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Roy Jones Jr arguable the best resume in modern boxing
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Originally posted by boxkickboxmma View PostMeh, 168 pounds weightclass has only been around since 1984. Also, both men you mentioned are widely considered overrated. Their special "0" says it all.
Hopkins might also be at 160 BTW.
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Originally posted by Crisp Jab View PostExactly. If that was the case journyman would have the best resume. Resumes should only mean wins, nothing else.
I disagree. There are many fights that could have been wins but are losses and vice versa in boxing history. For instance, there is no doubt in my mind DLH beat Trinidad when they fought. Should we just disregard our own personal opinion when trying to judge a very subjective topic? And Im not just talking about Oscar, but many fighters in history.
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Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
I disagree. There are many fights that could have been wins but are losses and vice versa in boxing history. For instance, there is no doubt in my mind DLH beat Trinidad when they fought. Should we just disregard our own personal opinion when trying to judge a very subjective topic? And Im not just talking about Oscar, but many fighters in history.
These can be included in a resume.
However, clear loss's that you included for Oscar, obviously should not count on a resume. Why would they?
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Originally posted by boxkickboxmma View PostLennox Lewis is widely considered to be a top 10 ATG heavyweight by most people. How many fighters in the last decade or two are top 10 ATG in their own weight class?
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Originally posted by IronDanHamza View PostRare instances where the other fighter clearly won I.e Johnson over Pastrano, Whitaker over Ramierz and Chavez and I guess Oscar over Tito.
These can be included in a resume.
However, clear loss's that you included for Oscar, obviously should not count on a resume. Why would they?
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Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
I disagree. There are many fights that could have been wins but are losses and vice versa in boxing history. For instance, there is no doubt in my mind DLH beat Trinidad when they fought. Should we just disregard our own personal opinion when trying to judge a very subjective topic? And Im not just talking about Oscar, but many fighters in history.
This is why you can't rank fighters you haven't seen.
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Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby View PostThis is why you can't rank fighters you haven't seen.
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lol if I were to rank the top 1000 fighters Sugar Ray Robinson or who ever else wouldn't be on it because I don't rank them. It doesn't mean I have anybody ranked over him it means I am ranking "modern fighters".
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Originally posted by RubenSonny View PostBy who exactly? It doesn't matter anyway heavyweight division is definitely not the best division and some great fighters campaign at multiple weight classes, Hopkins, Pacquiao, Jones, Mayweather and Holyfield should all be ranked higher than Lennox, and some others too, maybe.
So again, Hopkins and Lewis are the 2 best. Mayweather and Jones are too "unproven" and their resume doesn't measure up. Pacquiao I will give you that one but not quite yet.
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