Teddy Atlas's 13 Greatest P4P Fighters Of All Time!

[SCtrojansbaby]

I lol at people who ***** about every fighter of the past 20 years not having a resume but then argue for Hagler when his resume is inferior compared to Roy or Chavez or a lot of other guys. But I guess older=better.

[IronDanHamza]

lets argue. Im bored.

I'm just playing. I have no issue with someone having Hagler above Monzon.

Kinda slow tonight, right?

I really don't have the energy to have a debate involving a fighter I am emotionally attached to right now anyway even if I wanted to

[Steak]

I'm just playing. I have no issue with someone having Hagler above Monzon.

Kinda slow tonight, right?

I really don't have the energy to have a debate involving a fighter I am emotionally attached to right now anyway even if I wanted to

gotcha. guess Im forced to actually get work done now instead of slack off...dammit.

[joseph5620]

Wheter Lucas was or was not a 'non-threath' is IMO irrelevant. He doesnt make or break the point I made.

The point you made was that he was a non threat. So it's not irrelevant. And you still didn't answer the question about Kessler fighting him 10 years later. So it does break your point.That doesn't say much for Kessler defending his belt against a fighter like Lucas

[goblin213]

Good list but why no Ezzard Charles in the top 10?

[Turok2]

where would pac rank ?

[Marchegiano]

1.Ray Robinson
2.Henry Armstrong
3.Willie Pep
4.Benny Leonard
5.Sam Langford
6.Harry Greb
7.Mickey Walker
8.Muhammad Ali
9.Roberto Duran
10.Gene Tunney
11.Joe Louis
12.Jack Johnson
13.Carlos Monzon

Teddy's the man. I always at least understand his perspective.

[Spartacus Sully]

Id say fitzsimmons should be on there other then that its a good list.

[BattlingNelson]

The point you made was that he was a non threat. So it's not irrelevant. And you still didn't answer the question about Kessler fighting him 10 years later. So it does break your point.That doesn't say much for Kessler defending his belt against a fighter like Lucas

The point I made was that Jones didnt display total domination of the division. Since you say my point is broken I take it as you think that Jones exhibited total domination despite him not fighting any top guys at SMW besides Toney.

Odd point you have if I may say so. I mean how can you display total domination without fighting the best???

[Spartacus Sully]

The point I made was that Jones didnt display total domination of the division. Since you say my point is broken I take it as you think that Jones exhibited total domination despite him not fighting any top guys at SMW besides Toney.

Odd point you have if I may say so. I mean how can you display total domination without fighting the best???

it seems that your argueing that he didnt exhibit total domination

while the other guy is arguing that lucas wasnt a non threat....and for some reason he seems to feel if he can disprove that lucas was a non threat....then hes some how successfully disproved everything you said.

i believe its called a straw man argument.