Hagler vs Calzaghe Prime for Prime 164 Ibs.

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Eh? Really? It can also be disproved with that same 'video evidence'. I've seen Calzaghe hit plenty of times by guys much less skilled than Hagler. Knocked down and hurt too. So, that's just wrong.

Hagler also wasn't wild. I'm not sure what you consider wild, but Hagler wasn't. If you consider Hagler wild with the punches he throws, then you'd have to say the same about Calzaghe.

See, check out this video. This shows Hagler highlights of his KO's. He is shown here at his wildest, when he has guys hurt and is trying to finish them. It all looks damn accurate, relaxed and perfectly considered. Nearly the opposite of what you are saying. Again, in what is widely considered one of the wildest fights ever seen in ring history, Hagler's shots are under great control, and most land to the body and head. In that sort of brawl, he looks anything but wild and with the huge power shots he's throwing he lands very accurately and seems to throw exactly the right punches at the right time. That's not wild.


Calzaghe throws more wildly than Hagler does.


He also gets hit by wild, winged shots.
Here he is taking a swinging shot by Salem when he's rushing in (rather wildly) with his chin up.

Thank you Benny. You wrote exactly what I would have. I guess someone had to bother. Sorry for freeriding.

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Size is what will give Zags the advantage in this.

It will be a replay of SRL/Hagler with Joe flurrying the hell out of Marvin at the end of every round racking up points. Hagler has nothing to stop this from happening and would lose a wide unanimous decision.

Too bad we are talking about a prime Hagler, so the Leonard fight is not very relevant.

[Toney616]

Size is what will give Zags the advantage in this.

It will be a replay of SRL/Hagler with Joe flurrying the hell out of Marvin at the end of every round racking up points. Hagler has nothing to stop this from happening and would lose a wide unanimous decision.

Bad example. Hagler was very past prime and Ive never seen Calzaghe execute that same kind of fight plan as srl in any of his fights either, He tends to come forward, not fight backing up.

Its a shame a blueprint fight doesnt exist (that I know of), which would give us a chance to see how this fight could play out.

[StarshipTrooper]

Joe can't slap his way to victory in this one.

Poet

[CarlosG815]

Calzaghe is not a very good fighter. He has no chance against The Great Marvin Hagler.

[Zig Zag.]

calzaghe by brootal KO

[Die Antwoord]

no, because the thread title says 164. Hagler was a middleweight his whole career and he was short. I don't think a move up in weight would have helped him. I would likely pick Hagler to win just because I know what he's capable of but there is a great chance that he would get beat.

Roy Jones at LHW would have torn them both apart. Perhaps even Marvelous at middle.

You think Hagler would beat a prime light Tomasz Adamek at 175. You cant be debated. Whats the point of debating whether Calzaghe could beat a MW at 164, if you think Adamek would lose at 175.

By the way if Hagler fought Adamek at 175, 2-3 fights before he took on Dawson, Adamek would kill him.

I mean youre a fan its cool, im not bashing on you or anything. Boxing needs fans and if you arent a fanboy of someone you probably arent a fan of boxing, but theres just no debating Joe vs. Marvin if you think marvin beats Adamek.

[BennyST]

Thank you Benny. You wrote exactly what I would have. I guess someone had to bother. Sorry for freeriding.

I think exactly the same of your posts most of the time too.

[Toney616]

power:equal
handspeed:equal
footspeed:equal
footwork:hagler
reach:Hagler
skillset:hagler

Blueprint: Calzaghe vs Eubank (when they were going toe to toe)
I can see this fight being a brawl in the middle of the ring, with neither guy backing down. I think Hagler wears down Joe to win the later rounds and win by ud

[Die Antwoord]

power:equal
handspeed:equal
footspeed:equal
footwork:hagler
reach:Hagler
skillset:hagler

Blueprint: Calzaghe vs Eubank (when they were going toe to toe)
I can see this fight being a brawl in the middle of the ring, with neither guy backing down. I think Hagler wears down Joe to win the later rounds and win by ud

handspeed equal.........haters want to hate.
size:calzaghe
height:calzaghe
reflexes:calzaghe
adaptability:calzaghe