Joe Frazier beats both Klitschkos

[NChristo]

208 lb holyfield would beat the hell outta frazier as would rid**** bowe.and rid**** might be the`reason holy is ******ed now

Did you really just compare the Klitschkos to Bowe and Holyfield ? they are in a completely different league to the Klits and besides this is about the Klits vs Frazier, not them.

[StarshipTrooper]

1st off were dealing with a fantasy matchup of klitschos vs frazier.so do you understand the meaning of the word opinion lol?

Not all opinions are of equal validity. The opinion of an intelligent knowledgable poster like Jab trumps the opinion of a village idiot who can't be arsed to do his homework such as yourself.

only facts we have are that the 1 big puncher with height joe faced,he got mangled.that is a fact.george foreman has a 83% ko ratio while vlad is at 85 an vital is at 90 so even if you still want to kling to the notion that george hit harder,you can at least admit they are in the same ballpark

What you're leaving out is the fact that the Klitschkos' KO% are padded with opponents who gave up and quit on their stools: Something that fighters in Foreman's time had to much pride to make a habit of. These days it's an exceptable option when a fighter is way behind on points.

im not obessed with weight and height at all.again were talking about how frazier would do agianst 2 6'7 guys with extreme power.fact is,the 6'4 gu with extreme power and less skills decapitated him.it wasnt a close fight,and george was the only guy he fought with a ko ratio of over 80.thats a fact

so playing statistics,theres a better chance of frazier getting stopped than 1)stopping a guy who has never been stopped in vitali,or 2)stopping a guy who hasnt come close to being stopped after steward.and as a side bar,sanders is 6'5 and had a ratio in the 90's when he fought wlad,as did brewster

So you deny you're height and weight obsessed in the first line then go right back to obsessing on height and weight in the remainder of your paragraph

Poet

[r.burgundy]

Not all opinions are of equal validity. The opinion of an intelligent knowledgable poster like Jab trumps the opinion of a village idiot who can't be arsed to do his homework such as yourself.




What you're leaving out is the fact that the Klitschkos' KO% are padded with opponents who gave up and quit on their stools: Something that fighters in Foreman's time had to much pride to make a habit of. These days it's an exceptable option when a fighter is way behind on points.




So you deny you're height and weight obsessed in the first line then go right back to obsessing on height and weight in the remainder of your paragraph

Poet

ok grandpa

[Shazam!]

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Note the close comma's and fullstops.. Must be a common trait amongst the Frazier hate club foundation..

Haha, great spot. It's gotta be the same guy. What an idiot!

[Suckmedry]

I mean, the too small thing is ****** in regards to Frazier.

Prime Frazier was like what, 205-10 or something, with no fat and great stamina.

Chambers, who was considered a legit challeneger to wlad, and isn't half the fighter Joe was, weighed 209 with a sizeable gut on him.

[theghost#1]

Fraziers style would be a nightmare for the K bros. They are very upright and don't tuck their chins, and they don't seem to like fighting inside. Everyone they face fights them at their reach. Frazier would be inside and never take a step back. I'm not so certain they would even have any punching power in close.

Of all the greats I believe Frazier would be the easiest fighter for K2. He's simply to small, short arms. Would literally have to jump to hit either klit.

[JAB5239]

Of all the greats I believe Frazier would be the easiest fighter for K2. He's simply to small, short arms. Would literally have to jump to hit either klit.

Than again he wasn't much shorter than Lamon Brewster and was the WAY better fighter and never got tired.

[Suckmedry]

Of all the greats I believe Frazier would be the easiest fighter for K2. He's simply to small, short arms. Would literally have to jump to hit either klit.

Frazier could really have given both guys trouble with his intensity, conditioning, the way he crouched and bobbed his head, making him a tough target for a big man like the K's, plus he was a strong puncher, and a good body puncher too.


The K's are good fighters, but the guys they are dominating are not on Joe's level, Joe was a strong, well conditioned guy who did not give up and had good skills. Prime Frazier stops Wlad.

Frazier vs Vitali could be an awkward fight with frazier's low crouching advance and VK's great height and awkward style. Both guys could take a few rounds to figure each other out, but I think Joe is eventually able to close the distance on Vitali and mess up his range, getting in on him and scoring in close, and winning a decision.

[r.burgundy]

Frazier could really have given both guys trouble with his intensity, conditioning, the way he crouched and bobbed his head, making him a tough target for a big man like the K's, plus he was a strong puncher, and a good body puncher too.


The K's are good fighters, but the guys they are dominating are not on Joe's level, Joe was a strong, well conditioned guy who did not give up and had good skills. Prime Frazier stops Wlad.

Frazier vs Vitali could be an awkward fight with frazier's low crouching advance and VK's great height and awkward style. Both guys could take a few rounds to figure each other out, but I think Joe is eventually able to close the distance on Vitali and mess up his range, getting in on him and scoring in close, and winning a decision.

somebody please tell me,who on earth smokin joe has beat that people must make him out to be a legend.he has 1 decision over ali.wow

[r.burgundy]

Of all the greats I believe Frazier would be the easiest fighter for K2. He's simply to small, short arms. Would literally have to jump to hit either klit.

hey,get outta here with all that common sense