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  • #91
    Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
    Than again he wasn't much shorter than Lamon Brewster and was the WAY better fighter and never got tired.
    Speaking of Brewster, I'm still confused how someone that's hit after the bell, goes down after the bell, can be counted out, especially when he beats the count (and has 50 seconds left to recover before continuing.)

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    • #92
      Originally posted by £Hank$Moody€ View Post
      Speaking of Brewster, I'm still confused how someone that's hit after the bell, goes down after the bell, can be counted out, especially when he beats the count (and has 50 seconds left to recover before continuing.)

      You lost me Hank. Could you specify what you're talking about? Thanks bro!

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      • #93
        Originally posted by r.burgundy View Post
        somebody please tell me,who on earth smokin joe has beat that people must make him out to be a legend.he has 1 decision over ali.wow
        Please tell me who either Klitschko has beat to make THEM legends?

        Poet

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        • #94
          Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

          You lost me Hank. Could you specify what you're talking about? Thanks bro!
          The Brewster/Wlad fight. Sorry, I thought it was implied.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by poet682006 View Post
            Please tell me who either Klitschko has beat to make THEM legends?

            Poet
            same guys larry holmes and smokin joe beat
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            • #96
              Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
              Than again he wasn't much shorter than Lamon Brewster and was the WAY better fighter and never got tired.
              he's 3" taller with 4 " reach and 20lbs heavier with a granite chin.those are pretty big advantages
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              • #97
                Originally posted by £Hank$Moody€ View Post
                The Brewster/Wlad fight. Sorry, I thought it was implied.
                My bad, I had a brain fart.

                First, you can't be saved by the bell in any round but the last. Next, I thought Brewster through that last punch just a split second before the bell with it land just a split second after. Not an intentional foul a a fighter needs to protect himself at all times. Last, Wlad was in no condition to go on. Stopping it then was not only the right call, but a merciful one at that.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by r.burgundy View Post
                  same guys larry holmes and smokin joe beat
                  Funny, but I was unaware either Klit beat: Ali, Bonevena, Ellis, and Machen (Frazier); or Norton, Shavers, Weaver, Cooney, and Witherspoon (Holmes).

                  Poet

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by r.burgundy View Post
                    he's 3" taller with 4 " reach and 20lbs heavier with a granite chin.those are pretty big advantages

                    Hec was 2, maybe 2 and a half inches taller and reach doesn't mean as much to someone with Fraziers style as it does for more of a stand up fighter. Joe was faster than Brewster of both hand and foot, had better stamina and better quality wins. THOSE are pretty big advantages, no?

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                    • Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
                      My bad, I had a brain fart.

                      First, you can't be saved by the bell in any round but the last. Next, I thought Brewster through that last punch just a split second before the bell with it land just a split second after. Not an intentional foul a a fighter needs to protect himself at all times. Last, Wlad was in no condition to go on. Stopping it then was not only the right call, but a merciful one at that.
                      Thanks. It just seemed kind of odd, especially since Brewster was hurt worse earlier in the fight. Wlad had punched himself out Foreman style by the time the fight was stopped though, probably wouldn't have done much after that. I just figured he should've been given a minute to see if he could recuperate, especially after beating the count, and being a title fight.

                      Wlad was dropped in the fight right after that, if I remember right, and managed to recover and stop the guy.

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