Joe Frazier beats both Klitschkos

[JAB5239]

Thanks. It just seemed kind of odd, especially since Brewster was hurt worse earlier in the fight. Wlad had punched himself out Foreman style by the time the fight was stopped though, probably wouldn't have done much after that. I just figured he should've been given a minute to see if he could recuperate, especially after beating the count, and being a title fight.

Wlad was dropped in the fight right after that, if I remember right, and managed to recover and stop the guy.

Against DaVaryl Williams, yes. But that KD was more of an off balance KD and Wlad wasn't in the kind of shape he was in against Brewster.

[r.burgundy]

Hec was 2, maybe 2 and a half inches taller and reach doesn't mean as much to someone with Fraziers style as it does for more of a stand up fighter. Joe was faster than Brewster of both hand and foot, had better stamina and better quality wins. THOSE are pretty big advantages, no?

frazier is 5'11 and brewster is 6'2.reach is very important for joe against a bigger guy because he would damn near have to lunge.yes he has faster fands and feet,but id trade those for brewsters very proven chin.and brewster is no slouch in stamina so i cant say joe has him beat there.

if you take ali off joes resume,its pretty ****ty.please make a case for joe being atg without the ali fights,in which he lost 2 of them.i dont think a fighter in history has ever been rewarded more for losing

[JAB5239]

frazier is 5'11 and brewster is 6'2.reach is very important for joe against a bigger guy because he would damn near have to lunge.yes he has faster fands and feet,but id trade those for brewsters very proven chin.and brewster is no slouch in stamina so i cant say joe has him beat there.

Frazier is listed as 5'11" and 1/2 inches tall. That is a 2 and a half inch advantage in Brewsters favor, but you completely ignored what I wrote about styles and height. As far as stamina goes.....when have you seen Brewster throw non stop at the pace Frazier set, for 12 rounds let alone 15?

if you take ali off joes resume,its pretty ****ty.please make a case for joe being atg without the ali fights,in which he lost 2 of them.i dont think a fighter in history has ever been rewarded more for losing

Ellis, Quarry, Ramos, Chuvalo, Machen, Bonovena, Jones and Mathis, some of them more than once, makes for a pretty ****ty resume?

[r.burgundy]

Ellis, Quarry, Ramos, Chuvalo, Machen, Bonovena, Jones and Mathis, some of them more than once, makes for a pretty ****ty resume?

for a supposed all time great and considering whom it coulda had.yes.that is a verry ****ty resume.the fact that you list quarry,jones and mathis should confirm that for you

[JAB5239]

for a supposed all time great and considering whom it coulda had.yes.that is a verry ****ty resume.the fact that you list quarry,jones and mathis should confirm that for you

Ok I'll bite. Who could it have had?

[The Beatles]

for a supposed all time great and considering whom it coulda had.yes.that is a verry ****ty resume.the fact that you list quarry,jones and mathis should confirm that for you

shut the **** up idiot....Quarry and Mathis are greater than any chump Wlad has fought

[The Beatles]

frazier is 5'11 and brewster is 6'2.reach is very important for joe against a bigger guy because he would damn near have to lunge.yes he has faster fands and feet,but id trade those for brewsters very proven chin.and brewster is no slouch in stamina so i cant say joe has him beat there.

if you take ali off joes resume,its pretty ****ty.please make a case for joe being atg without the ali fights,in which he lost 2 of them.i dont think a fighter in history has ever been rewarded more for losing

sorry but glass chinned Wlad has no great on his resume....not ONE...

Wlad has yet to fight someone who people consider a great....if frazier's resume is ****ty than LMAO at Wlad's resume

[r.burgundy]

Ok I'll bite. Who could it have had?

prime norton,shavers,lyle,and young all shouldve been on his resume.do you agree?

[r.burgundy]

sorry but glass chinned Wlad has no great on his resume....not ONE...

Wlad has yet to fight someone who people consider a great....if frazier's resume is ****ty than LMAO at Wlad's resume

we dont crticize larry holmes for that.roys light heavy run doesnt have 1 either,same with hopkins run at middle,hagler doesnt have a true mw win over a atg as well.i said true as hearns and duran were not true mw's

smokin joe went 1-5 against the 2 atg' on his resume and we are supposed to reward that

you have the nerve to say buster mathis was better than anybody wlad fought lol.he was 1 skittle away from a heart attack,and thats back when he was actually in shape.please show me 1 good win on mathis resume.i'll wait

[Roger Yomama]

fraziers style would be absolutely perfect for a klitscho,just like it was perfect for foreman,and just like it would be perfect for any big guy with power.frazier went to the rocky balboa school of defense.foreman was a crude slugger and he damn near decapitated frazier,i can only imagine what some1 wit some technique would do

Who was that guy who went life and death with Frazier 3 times? His technique was pretty decent if I remember rightly and Frazier gave him nightmares.