Do You Classify Joe Louis As Slow Feet, Fast Hands

[JAB5239]

- - Pea trained by ol slo DumDuva was walking into southpaw Jose Luis Ramirez left hooks to the liver all night. Poor Pea barely made it the finish.

Good footwork for a clown, but Hector Camacho runs circles around him as he showed in a magnificent dominance of Jose...

Let's start off with what's wrong with this post and why you're an idiot. First, your liver it on your right side. Southpaws fight with their right arm their lead had and their left as their power. Nobody, especially any professional fighter throws a left hook to the liver from a southpaw stance. Do you ever tire of making a fool of yourself?

[QueensburyRules]

Let's start off with what's wrong with this post and why you're an idiot. First, your liver it on your right side. Southpaws fight with their right arm their lead had and their left as their power. Nobody, especially any professional fighter throws a left hook to the liver from a southpaw stance. Do you ever tire of making a fool of yourself?

- - Left hook to the liver a natural. Power punchers usually have power in both hands unlike your washerwoman career.

It's like U never followed boxing..

[JAB5239]

- - Left hook to the liver a natural. Power punchers usually have power in both hands unlike your washerwoman career.

It's like U never followed boxing..

You're making things up again in your drunken stupor. I watched the fight again yesterday. None of what you said was true. If so, tell us in what rounds it happened. You won't. You can't. That is a fact.

Left hook to the liver is natural from an orthodox stance, not southpaw. Ask anyone who has ever fought. You're a big mouth and a sissy. We know you've never fought.

[QueensburyRules]

You're making things up again in your drunken stupor. I watched the fight again yesterday. None of what you said was true. If so, tell us in what rounds it happened. You won't. You can't. That is a fact.

Left hook to the liver is natural from an orthodox stance, not southpaw. Ask anyone who has ever fought. You're a big mouth and a sissy. We know you've never fought.

- - Yo, monkey boy, left hook to the liver from a southpaw stance devastating by a power puncher like Ramirez.

Interesting that Peashooters like U tend to live careless lives like Pea that don't enhance longevity...

[JAB5239]

- - Yo, monkey boy, left hook to the liver from a southpaw stance devastating by a power puncher like Ramirez.

Interesting that Peashooters like U tend to live careless lives like Pea that don't enhance longevity...

Problem is it leaves you wide open to be countered and Ramirez hardly threw that punch unlike what you said. You make things up, drunky. If not tell us what rounds Ramirez was devastating Whitaker with this punch. Your memory must be hazy from all the tequila this morning, right?

[QueensburyRules]

Problem is it leaves you wide open to be countered and Ramirez hardly threw that punch unlike what you said. You make things up, drunky. If not tell us what rounds Ramirez was devastating Whitaker with this punch. Your memory must be hazy from all the tequila this morning, right?

- - He threw idiot such that peashooter was on vapors by the end of the fight with US sissyboys like U bawlin' like kicked school grrls...wah....

[JAB5239]

- - He threw idiot such that peashooter was on vapors by the end of the fight with US sissyboys like U bawlin' like kicked school grrls...wah....

This is what you said "- - Pea trained by ol slo DumDuva was walking into southpaw Jose Luis Ramirez left hooks to the liver all night." Right? Im asking what rounds? I watched the fight live and I rewatched it yesterday. You're making things up, lying. If not tell us the rounds. That fight was a whitewash by Whitaker. Nearly a shutout and one of the biggest robberies in boxing g history. Pea made Ramirez look silly.

[Willie Pep 229]

[QUOTE=JAB5239;n32514088]

This is what you said "- - Pea trained by ol slo DumDuva was walking into southpaw Jose Luis Ramirez left hooks to the liver all night." Right? Im asking what rounds? I watched the fight live and I rewatched it yesterday. You're making things up, lying. If not tell us the rounds. That fight was a whitewash by Whitaker. Nearly a shutout and one of the biggest robberies in boxing g history. Pea made Ramirez look silly.[/QUOTE]

I hate that point . . . Wiggling your azz, sticking your tongue out while jumping around, without engaging, isn't great defense. It's a clown act.

The only fighter who looked silly was Pee Wee himself.

[JAB5239]

[QUOTE=Willie Pep 229;n32514118]

This is what you said "- - Pea trained by ol slo DumDuva was walking into southpaw Jose Luis Ramirez left hooks to the liver all night." Right? Im asking what rounds? I watched the fight live and I rewatched it yesterday. You're making things up, lying. If not tell us the rounds. That fight was a whitewash by Whitaker. Nearly a shutout and one of the biggest robberies in boxing g history. Pea made Ramirez look silly.[/QUOTE]

I hate that point . . . Wiggling your azz, sticking your tongue out while jumping around, without engaging, isn't great defense. It's a clown act.

The only fighter who looked silly was Pee Wee himself.

I think you're stuck on his showboating and forgetting he was consistently making Ramirez miss his punches by a mile and snapping his head back with punches of his own, all the while NOT being walked into liver punches as claimed al night.

[Mr Mitts]

Conn, and Walcott were excellent movers. Godoy was not there in class, but he had good feet. There were guys with fast footwork in the 1930's and 1940's at heavyweight

Louis was not a thinker in the ring.

Louis, if you add up his round wons to lost in Schemling, Walcott, Conn, is down by a significant margin on the cards. All three men had good jabs at footwork matched against Louis' slow feet, low guard and lack of lateral agility; he was in big trouble unless his power bailed him out with the puncher's chance when they fought ******ly.

I said with a few outliers. A couple of guys moved. Other than Conn and Walcott--what? I am now to be challenged on the basis of two guys who moved. Other than Conn none of them moved like many fighters move today. A lot of boxers do not have traditional skills of defense, so they run. And no one at all ever moved like Walcott. But the thing is Walcott was very near always in range. He never moved far. His movement usually consisted of body movement and a few steps. Then once in a while he would do his Walcott walkaway move and get entirely out of range for a few moments.

To me the tell tell sign of bullshit is that people keep insisting he had fast feet without offering a single fcking example like I have been asking for for years. I hate to have to say that. The mindless defense of heroes around here boggles.

I say people ought to bring a little evidence beyond their wagging lips if they purport to believe something controversial that others misunderstand. I have evidence--all the fights of his I have seen. Where is theirs? Oh, I am supposed to look up their evidence for them. Maybe if they showed proof I would relent or admit I was wrong. I'll tell you this, it had better be convincing evidence, not a few moments of fking around.

Joe Louis could barely handle Conn because Billy moved like a fighter should against Louis. No other fighter did that. There is not a single person here other than known consensus halfwits who figure Louis would beat Ali. Louis had to wait for Conn to get tired. That is all he could do against a good runner, stand there and wait. Ali would actually be gesturing for the ref to stop the slaughter, which eventually would. Louis would be an easy mark for Ali. He would not even be much of a challenge with those lead feet on him. Liston had faster feet, At least he was able to chase Ali.