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  • Bronson66
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    #51
    Originally posted by Bennyleonard99

    He could not come back after running from Vitali into retirement. Vitali checkmated him out of the game.

    It may sound harsh but it's the truth, Lennox distaste for the Vitali rematch ended his career prematurely. But he covered it up with the baloney, "Oh I was going to retire anyway."

    It does not shade LL's greatness at all, his career speaks for itself. One of the finest in ring history, any weight class. But the public and boxing history were denied a spectacular rematch that would have generated over $100,000,000.
    Prematurely?He was 37!

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      #52
      Originally posted by Bennyleonard99

      He could not come back after running from Vitali into retirement. Vitali checkmated him out of the game.

      It may sound harsh but it's the truth, Lennox distaste for the Vitali rematch ended his career prematurely. But he covered it up with the baloney, "Oh I was going to retire anyway."

      It does not shade LL's greatness at all, his career speaks for itself. One of the finest in ring history, any weight class. But the public and boxing history were denied a spectacular rematch that would have generated over $100,000,000.
      Yes, Lennox career ended prematurely after ripping Vits face off and stopping him in 6. Retired and stayed that way. We do agree he had one of the finest ring careers in history though.

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        #53
        Originally posted by Bennyleonard99

        It's the hurt business pal. Rahman and McCall gave Lewis the rematch. Duran gave Leonard the rematch. Johansson gave Patterson the rematch. Frazier gave Ali the rematch. Tunney gave Dempsey the rematch. Marciano gave Walcott the rematch. Vitali deserved the rematch.

        Lennox planned on having more fights after he expected to beat Vitali, video evidence exists on the HBO broadcast tape. But Vitali changed all those plans and sent Lennox to retirement earlier than he wanted. The rematch was so big nobody would have paid to see Lennox fight anyone else do he quit. Boxing is a cruel business and Lewis learned that. To get booed out of the ring after his final fight was a cruel exclamation point to a historic, legendary career.
        What did Vits duck the Rahman fight? Happened both before and after he retired i believe. Didn't want to even find out if he could stop him, just flat out avoided him.

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          #54
          Originally posted by JAB5239

          What did Vits duck the Rahman fight? Happened both before and after he retired i believe. Didn't want to even find out if he could stop him, just flat out avoided him.
          If you think Vitali ducked Rahman or anybody, you're just a hater. Rahman was shot at the end, Vitali was injured. Like Williams vs Pavlik was scuppered by injury and never remade, same deal on Vitali vs Rahman.

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            #55
            Originally posted by Bennyleonard99

            If you think Vitali ducked Rahman or anybody, you're just a hater. Rahman was shot at the end, Vitali was injured. Like Williams vs Pavlik was scuppered by injury and never remade, same deal on Vitali vs Rahman.
            Bull****. Vitali made the fight several times and backed out. I think it was the last time he pulled out because of supposed injury he fought a month after that date. If you think k alewis ducked a Vits rematch you have to see Vits ducking Rahman and a Byrs rematch. You can call me a hater all you want, but the facts speak for themselves and you've got double standards. Want to bet i can post the timeline?

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              #56
              Originally posted by JAB5239

              Bull****. Vitali made the fight several times and backed out. I think it was the last time he pulled out because of supposed injury he fought a month after that date. If you think k alewis ducked a Vits rematch you have to see Vits ducking Rahman and a Byrs rematch. You can call me a hater all you want, but the facts speak for themselves and you've got double standards. Want to bet i can post the timeline?
              Why on earth would Vitali be afraid of anyone, particularly a shot Rahman? He obviously had a reason because Rahman was tailor made to be his heavy bag. Vitali never showed reluctance to face anyone. He beat Byrd easy and IMO threw the fight with a phony shoulder injury, to set up Byrd to later face Wladimir who became Byrd's mandatory. A Ukraine mafia move. Because Vitali could have beat Byrd with one arm and he never showed any hint of pain. He just quit. And did not demand rematch. Very suspect.

              Vitali could have easily boxed and floated for two more rounds and won the decision. Byrd had nothing to hurt him with. Vitali tanked it IMO. Boxing is very corrupt. More corrupt than anyone realizes.

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                #57
                Originally posted by Bennyleonard99

                Why on earth would Vitali be afraid of anyone, particularly a shot Rahman? He obviously had a reason because Rahman was tailor made to be his heavy bag. Vitali never showed reluctance to face anyone. He beat Byrd easy and IMO threw the fight with a phony shoulder injury, to set up Byrd to later face Wladimir who became Byrd's mandatory. A Ukraine mafia move. Because Vitali could have beat Byrd with one arm and he never showed any hint of pain. He just quit. And did not demand rematch. Very suspect.

                Vitali could have easily boxed and floated for two more rounds and won the decision. Byrd had nothing to hurt him with. Vitali tanked it IMO. Boxing is very corrupt. More corrupt than anyone realizes.
                Oh my god.......the audacity of the things you make up!!!

                Im willing to make any bet you want that says I can prove Vits never sought a Byrd rematch after losing and never fought his number one contender Rahman even though he could have. Name your bet. You're in the deep end of the pool now. You want us to believe a guy who won and retired owed Vits a rematch but Vits had no obligation to his loss to Byrd and his number one contender Rahman? Lmao!!

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by JAB5239

                  Oh my god.......the audacity of the things you make up!!!

                  Im willing to make any bet you want that says I can prove Vits never sought a Byrd rematch after losing and never fought his number one contender Rahman even though he could have. Name your bet. You're in the deep end of the pool now. You want us to believe a guy who won and retired owed Vits a rematch but Vits had no obligation to his loss to Byrd and his number one contender Rahman? Lmao!!
                  Vitali did NOT demand the rematch with Byrd, likely for the reasons I noted above. Rahman was shot and irrelevant and I can't remember why the Vitali fight didn't happen. Not that anyone regrets it, everybody knows Vitali would have slaughtered the shot Rahman at that point. Why didn't Rahman force the fight if he was mandatory challenger if he wanted Vitali so bad?

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Bennyleonard99

                    Vitali did NOT demand the rematch with Byrd, likely for the reasons I noted above. Rahman was shot and irrelevant and I can't remember why the Vitali fight didn't happen. Not that anyone regrets it, everybody knows Vitali would have slaughtered the shot Rahman at that point. Why didn't Rahman force the fight if he was mandatory challenger if he wanted Vitali so bad?
                    Nobody said Vits demanded a rematch with Byrd. That's the problem. You excuse this but think Lewis owed him ANYTHING after beating him and retiring. As far as Rahman goes...he avoided his number one contender. If Rahman was no threat than why not make the fight? More excuses but nuthuggers forthcoming I'm sure. Why did Vits feign injury to get out of a Rahman fight only to schedule a different fight after the Rahman fight fell thru? I told you you were in the deep end of the pool now, and youre drowning. You like to use a lot of conjecture but very little facts.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by JAB5239

                      If he had come back and made another fight I would get their point. As it stands he did not. I don't see how we can fault a man for retiring and staying that way when so many others cannot.
                      - - He was faulted for selling his belts to Dking.

                      He was faulted for saying he had 5 more fights planned after taking care of Kirk Johnson with Vit on the undercard.

                      He was faulted for agreeing to rematch Vit, but making him jump through hoops, the last being his mommy who he lived with who when she met Vit, she gasped and say "U NOT Fighting this man the day before the WBC was due to strip him.

                      Nobody faults like U fault. U #1-Uno!!!

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