The Terrible Trio. 50-0, 46-0 & 32-0. JEALOUSY

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  • them_apples
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    #91
    Originally posted by MalevolentBite


    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    I need to pin this reponse. Hes on fire.

    I swear people on here act like I am crazy for telling the truth.

    These haters are something else. When the hate dont work they start telling lies lol. I cant believe he wanted to defend that bs win. Prime example Americans would support Tyson but not Ward and Mayweather and Tysons career was overall sub par. Every time he stepped up he lost and got beat down. Never fought Old Foreman or even Bowe !!! The Klitschko's would had folded him too.
    let me be clear - of this list Floyd is the best.

    However - just getting a win in boxing and saying it's not up for debate is not really being totally genuine in observation. Robbery is a very common thing in boxing, fights are rigged or manipulated. There is a lot of bogus surrounding Floyds large but shallow body of work. It's a resume that made him money - but it's not an ATG resume. It's void of risk. It's a very cherry picked resume. We know this because:

    1: Very rarely, if ever was their a feeling he could lose a fight. Every fight was always in his favor - besides the one risk he was required to take (Oscar) in order to become the A side. Not only was this a fight he won by a whisker (Floyd really doesn't always connect very well - but he's good at looking like he's in control) you can also make the argument that he didn't actually win - if viewed with a very close lense. Either or, no rematch took place - but let's just be generous - Floyd had to move up and wear 10 oz pillows so we can give him this win.

    2: He only fights in vegas for 2 reasons. The must system, meaning someone MUST win the round. no draw rounds. in doing so it allows him to take half the round off and land just a few jabs to secure the round. This is sort of like rigging in a roundabout way. This is hardly "good defense".

    3: If Floyd was at 90% of his prime potential, Pacquiao looked as though he was at 75%. Pacquiao had already ran out of steam a few years prior - judging by his previous fights. And once again DID Floyd REALLY win. I'm not so sure. I've watched this fight in slow motion many times. it was a bit of a sell, a combination of commentary manipulation, compubox manipulation and of course Pacquiao just being on the slide. so how does it rank as a win? not very high

    so it's looking like Floyd dodged a career defining win in order to preserve his health and make the most money. Good for him, but not for us.
    Last edited by them_apples; 07-07-2025, 03:18 PM.

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      #92
      Originally posted by MalevolentBite

      Omgggggg. OK. 31 year old spinks was still in his prime lmaooooooooo.
      Since when is a 31 yrs. 31-0 fighter. Cleaned out 175 then moved up to heavy and beat the main guy a prime atg not 1x but 2x, not a prime elite fighter.

      Whoever was trying s""t on Iron Mike must not have been watching boxing in the 80s or they would have known Tyson annihilated anybody they put in front of him before he got sidetracked.

      Why don't whoever started this get some tissue and face facts Floyd Mayweather will always have critics saying he was a safety first cherrypicker

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        #93
        Originally posted by MalevolentBite

        Floyd , Calzaghe, Ward did not fight 50 years ago. Stay on topic.
        What does that have to do with the price of tea in China.

        It's still boxing and since time and memorial it will be about who you beat and when you beat them

        Floyd cherrypicked a great deal of his career.

        Can't say that about Ward he fought too much in Oakland and got away with a lot

        Joe's knock is he prolonged coming to the states

        Maybe they should have took a page out of Ali book they wouldn't get criticized so hard
        Last edited by djtmal; 07-07-2025, 05:15 PM.

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          #94
          Originally posted by djtmal

          Since when is a 31 yrs. 31-0 fighter. Cleaned out 175 then moved up to heavy and beat the main guy a prime atg not 1x but 2x, not a prime elite fighter.

          Whoever was trying s""t on Iron Mike must not have been watching boxing in the 80s or they would have known Tyson annihilated anybody they put in front of him before he got sidetracked.

          Why don't whoever started this get some tissue and face facts Floyd Mayweather will always have critics saying he was a safety first cherrypicker
          Its actually a very overrated win though. Reason being:

          Spinks was set to retire, he was inactive for a year. King pulled him back in with a pay day - and very likely wanted spinks to lay down. Spinks got a huge pay out and took one punch. Not only does it seem fishy, but why is a guy who hasn’t fought in a year fighting a prime Tyson?

          I could just imagine Kings phone call “hey man, you get 30 million, nice retirement check. Its up to you how hard you wanna fight”

          that being said, its Tysons best win. And for a fighter to be great that can’t be his best win.

          so I agree with your points on Floyd, Tyson however is not the example. 31-0 means nothing without context

          same with the Holmes win. Holmes was 2 years out with barely any time to prepare. We can’t use his fight with Holyfield as an example to raise him up - because he made a proper comeback and had some warming up. Getting off the couch with a few months notice is a death sentence in a world title fight
          Last edited by them_apples; 07-07-2025, 06:45 PM.

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            #95
            Originally posted by djtmal

            What does that have to do with the price of tea in China.

            It's still boxing and since time and memorial it will be about who you beat and when you beat them

            Floyd cherrypicked a great deal of his career.

            Can't say that about Ward he fought too much in Oakland and got away with a lot

            Joe's knock is he prolonged coming to the states

            Maybe they should have took a page out of Ali book they wouldn't get criticized so hard
            You can't compare a 1960 Honda Civic to a 2025 Honda Civic. Both cars but different rules, regulations, standards, quality, safety and technology. Its an apples to oranges discussion. Either stick to the topic which doesn't include Ali or just chill out and relax.


            Once again. Stay on your boy Tyson lol.

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              #96
              Originally posted by djtmal

              Since when is a 31 yrs. 31-0 fighter. Cleaned out 175 then moved up to heavy and beat the main guy a prime atg not 1x but 2x, not a prime elite fighter.

              Whoever was trying s""t on Iron Mike must not have been watching boxing in the 80s or they would have known Tyson annihilated anybody they put in front of him before he got sidetracked.

              Why don't whoever started this get some tissue and face facts Floyd Mayweather will always have critics saying he was a safety first cherrypicker
              That man lost his wife, took alot of punches throughout his career, and was basically retired. He probably took a dive for 10 million. Like I said if thats your argument then I won because Tyson didn't have a better career than any of these three fighters. None of them lost to a buster Douglas fighter lol.

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                #97
                Looks like Roy and Floyd are going at it again.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by MalevolentBite

                  That man lost his wife, took alot of punches throughout his career, and was basically retired. He probably took a dive for 10 million. Like I said if thats your argument then I won because Tyson didn't have a better career than any of these three fighters. None of them lost to a buster Douglas fighter lol.
                  Well you won the argument about Tyson. But he’s **** on about Floyd. In my humble opinion

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by them_apples

                    Well you won the argument about Tyson. But hes **** on about Floyd. In my humble opinion
                    He didn't do nothing on me. Everything he said about floyd can be said for 90% of the boxers in his era. Thats why he use Muhammad Ali. Until he can find a boxer that didn't do the same bs floyd did on the same elite level then he has no facts.

                    I am not even here to defend floyd. Idc. I am here to expose hate. There's a difference. These people hate floyd , ward and some hate Calazage. Floyd is the best on this list like you said but also the most controversial and hated.

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by them_apples

                      Its actually a very overrated win though. Reason being:

                      Spinks was set to retire, he was inactive for a year. King pulled him back in with a pay day - and very likely wanted spinks to lay down. Spinks got a huge pay out and took one punch. Not only does it seem fishy, but why is a guy who hasn¢t fought in a year fighting a prime Tyson?

                      I could just imagine Kings phone call hey man, you get 30 million, nice retirement check. Its up to you how hard you wanna fight

                      that being said, its Tysons best win. And for a fighter to be great that can¢t be his best win.

                      so I agree with your points on Floyd, Tyson however is not the example. 31-0 means nothing without context

                      same with the Holmes win. Holmes was 2 years out with barely any time to prepare. We canât use his fight with Holyfield as an example to raise him up - because he made a proper comeback and had some warming up. Getting off the couch with a few months notice is a death sentence in a world title fight
                      No no no no no absolutely not

                      The weirdo poster said:

                      Mike never beaten an elite fighter in their prime never.

                      To which I countered:

                      Mike Spinks

                      31-0
                      Barely in his 30s

                      Beat Holmes 2x

                      If that isn't prime I don't know what is​


                      Spinks was in his prime there isn't even a debate. You can make up any excuse to downplay but Mike Spinks was a prime elite fighter when he stepped in with Tyson.

                      The showdown had been brewing for years why do you think it was huge closed circuit so kill the narrative Tyson never beat a prime elite all time great because Floyd never did. Floyd never was concerned with beating the best at their best, that's why he gets criticized the most out of any current or past champion.


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