The Terrible Trio. 50-0, 46-0 & 32-0. JEALOUSY

[them_apples]

Oh so now we getting somewhere. Maybe you should take a look at what separates Ali from those guys.

Could it possibly be that he beat the best guys on his resume in their primes. Because the main criticism for at least two of those fighters is they overmarinated fights, cherrypicked, and needed every conceivable advantage.

If the criticism of shortcomings of your favorite fighters is so widespread, shouldn't that mean it's not just invalid.

If the criticism don't apply, why be so butthurt

You are **** on with this post. Ali is remembered for what he did and accomplished. He took on challenges when he didn’t have to - in order to cement his Legacy. With Floyd he avoided risks to no end - to preserve his health to make the most money. Not particularly a bad thing for himself - but erased himself from history books. It all depends on what a person values.

[them_apples]

Furthermore we can say with almost absolute certainty that even with the most biased opinions: Pacquiao vs Floyd prime for prime would have been a rough and grueling match for him and he would have taken damage win or lose. (I think he would have lost).

when I say with certainty because:

1) we saw how the fight played out when they did actually fight

2) it was Pacquiao who was in the slide going by his previous fights - not Floyd. Floyds decline was very gradual - when they both stepped in the ring - Floyd was at a much better point in his career than Pacquiao was. And this is being generous to Floyd. I think realistically Pacquiao had lost at the very least 30 percent of his true fighting capability.

Floyd tried to pull a Ray Leonard - only he did it in such a blatant - obvious - legacy staining way.

[djtmal]

Ok. Take Ali off the table because he is clear cut and its not a fair comparison. .

No how about guys like Ali and Srl be the measuring stick. Which they are.

You know. Guys Floyd love to disrespect whenever their names come up

[MalevolentBite]

No how about guys like Ali and Srl be the measuring stick. Which they are.

You know. Guys Floyd love to disrespect whenever their names come up

How can they could be the measuring stick when they fought in the golden eras of boxing. Everyone on this list of three fought in the last 25 years. You are moving the goal post lol. Thats not even my topic.

floyds personality isnt up for debat nor do I care to defend it.

[MalevolentBite]

Furthermore we can say with almost absolute certainty that even with the most biased opinions: Pacquiao vs Floyd prime for prime would have been a rough and grueling match for him and he would have taken damage win or lose. (I think he would have lost).

when I say with certainty because:

1) we saw how the fight played out when they did actually fight

2) it was Pacquiao who was in the slide going by his previous fights - not Floyd. Floyds decline was very gradual - when they both stepped in the ring - Floyd was at a much better point in his career than Pacquiao was. And this is being generous to Floyd. I think realistically Pacquiao had lost at the very least 30 percent of his true fighting capability.

Floyd tried to pull a Ray Leonard - only he did it in such a blatant - obvious - legacy staining way.

Thats that rabbit whole stuff. Just leave it be. Thats what I be saying. They fought already and Manny lost. Everything else is hypothetical. If Manny felt he couldn't win then thats on him for taking the fight when he did.

[MalevolentBite]

You are **** on with this post. Ali is remembered for what he did and accomplished. He took on challenges when he didnâÂÂt have to - in order to cement his Legacy. With Floyd he avoided risks to no end - to preserve his health to make the most money. Not particularly a bad thing for himself - but erased himself from history books. It all depends on what a person values.

That makes no sense. You are comparing Ali boxing era to modern day era. Thats not even a fair comparison. Fighting in the four belt era is way different then back in those days. Back in those everyone had to fight each other. Compare Floyd to his peers in the 90s and 00s and you couldn't because everyone from 2000 to 2025 ducked a fighter or had a clear robbery at one point. Ali has nothing to with these three fighters.

Mike Tyson is an example but both of you guys skipped over my comment just to find so random loophole to take a dig at floyd and both of you guys are American. Yall proving my point. So the only way you can put floyd down is too use Ali?

Mike never beaten an elite fighter in their prime never. So go ahead and hate on Mike but you wouldn't because he's more likeable.

[djtmal]

How can they could be the measuring stick when they fought in the golden eras of boxing. Everyone on this list of three fought in the last 25 years. You are moving the goal post lol. Thats not even my topic.

floyds personality isnt up for debat nor do I care to defend it.

Oh so is that how far back you go with boxing 25 years because I go back 50+

Sounds like you go no further than Mayweather well I got news for you. Floyd worried too much about his health the previous eras fought with more pride

[djtmal]

Mike never beaten an elite fighter in their prime never. So go ahead and hate on Mike but you wouldn't because he's more likeable.

Mike Spinks

31-0
Barely in his 30s

Beat Holmes 2x

If that isn't prime I don't know what is

[them_apples]

That makes no sense. You are comparing Ali boxing era to modern day era. Thats not even a fair comparison. Fighting in the four belt era is way different then back in those days. Back in those everyone had to fight each other. Compare Floyd to his peers in the 90s and 00s and you couldn't because everyone from 2000 to 2025 ducked a fighter or had a clear robbery at one point. Ali has nothing to with these three fighters.

Mike Tyson is an example but both of you guys skipped over my comment just to find so random loophole to take a dig at floyd and both of you guys are American. Yall proving my point. So the only way you can put floyd down is too use Ali?

Mike never beaten an elite fighter in their prime never. So go ahead and hate on Mike but you wouldn't because he's more likeable.

Mike is not an atg though. by any stretch. floyd ranks much higher

[MalevolentBite]

Oh so is that how far back you go with boxing 25 years because I go back 50+

Sounds like you go no further than Mayweather well I got news for you. Floyd worried too much about his health the previous eras fought with more pride

Floyd , Calzaghe, Ward did not fight 50 years ago. Stay on topic.