Vinny Paz KOs Floyd Mayweather or get ducked!

[IronDanHamza]

Clearly Maidana being the agressor, ring general, landing the clearer shots and the ref gets in the way of further punishment giving help to the opponent.

It's only "clear" in your deluded, retarded brain.

It was a close fight, in which Floyd won, by landing the cleaner punches in more rounds.

[travestyny]

Floyd defenders will use any BS to protect their false hero who is a self confessed coward who will do anything ANYTHING for money. Cowardice was the best way to become rich at the expense of naive boxing fans, who don't realize, boxing today in USA is a shell of itself.

Dude, you went from this:

154 150 147 it's all the same really.

To this....

More like Pac was a lil too small for 154, and even 147 was a stretch, 140 was his best weight.

And you have the nerve to talk about using any BS....???


There's no reason for us to discuss anything else when you've exposed yourself this way. Good luck

[Bennyleonard99]

Dude, you went from this:




To this....




And you have the nerve to talk about using any BS....???


There's no reason for us to discuss anything else when you've exposed yourself this way. Good luck

Floyd calls himself a coward and even brags about it. Cowardice is why Floyd became so rich and kept his phony 0. Cowardice pays in boxing.

[Haka]

I would say Mayweather landed the cleaner punches (mostly counters).

Maidana was more than just the agressor, he controlled the pacing of thd fight.

I am a guy who does not believe in scoring 10-9 rounds, so in my purist universe (based on these highlights) I would score this fight a "no decision" and leave the NSW to make the call for the gamblers.

I didn't see either man 'win' that fight.

But then again I seldom do.

I have used this as an example before, but to me the FOC was a two round victory for Frazier (11th & 15th). The other 13 rounds were too close to bother scoring for one guy over the other.

I don't see how either of you can see a victorious fighter in the fight highlighted above.

Neither fighter ever dominated a round, never mind dominated the fight.

IMHO When you watch a round and then have to say, well my criteria consists of "ring generalship, effective aggression," Etc. and then scored it 10-9 based on 'your criteria,' the truth is, you likely just watched another even round and then you forced a 10-9 score on to it.

You know when a fighter truly wins a round, it is obvious and you don't need to invent or revert to a self-created criteria to justify it.

I saw no winner above, but I seldom do.

Maidana was not hit often though, a lot of 'hits' where on the guard plus most of the punches where just taps that weren't affecting Maidana's point of gravity, as opposed to the other way around. If you go by the logic that "there are no 10-9 rounds" then the nudge in those fights must be given to Maidana since the ref illegitimately repeatedly broke up the fight after one side got battered, implied that the offensive was too much to bear in that particular moment.

[Bennyleonard99]

Maidana was not hit often though, a lot of 'hits' where on the guard plus most of the punches where just taps that weren't affecting Maidana's point of gravity, as opposed to the other way around. If you go by the logic that "there are no 10-9 rounds" then the nudge in those fights must be given to Maidana since the ref illegitimately repeatedly broke up the fight after one side got battered, implied that the offensive was too much to bear in that particular moment.

It was more than obvious the establishment was never going to allow their installed fraud franchise to lose. Floyd's career was a fraud - he even brags about his cowardice and how it made him rich.

There are a lot of dummies in this world who believe everything at face value.

[Willie Pep 229]

Maidana was not hit often though, a lot of 'hits' where on the guard plus most of the punches where just taps that weren't affecting Maidana's point of gravity, as opposed to the other way around. If you go by the logic that "there are no 10-9 rounds" then the nudge in those fights must be given to Maidana since the ref illegitimately repeatedly broke up the fight after one side got battered, implied that the offensive was too much to bear in that particular moment.

I can't speak to the referee.

The nudge you refer to is what I am saying should not win you a round.

But mine is a very different type of opinion that has been dead since 1930. The fans and the gamblers today want a winner and so we score close rounds even if all we can see is a 'nudge' of a difference.

[Haka]

I can't speak to the referee.

The nudge you refer to is what I am saying should not win you a round.

But mine is a very different type of opinion that has been dead since 1930. The fans and the gamblers today want a winner and so we score close rounds even if all we can see is a 'nudge' of a difference.

It is not about some 'old school cool' opinion in 100 or 200 years ago, it is about the simple fact hat the refs steps in when one side is in danger of taking to much punishment, so that rounds are forced to go into 10-9 territory. It highlights the essence of the fight.

[Haka]

It was more than obvious the establishment was never going to allow their installed fraud franchise to lose. Floyd's career was a fraud - he even brags about his cowardice and how it made him rich.

There are a lot of dummies in this world who believe everything at face value.

The Al Haymon model was at its peak during the 0bama era so there might be a connection there. Also the attendance numbers were always way off and propped up with fake numbers and fake seats, something that was picked up on by Chael Sonnen.

[Bennyleonard99]

The Al Haymon model was at its peak during the 0bama era so there might be a connection there. Also the attendance numbers were always way off and propped up with fake numbers and fake seats, something that was picked up on by Chael Sonnen.

Haymon also manipulated HBO and Showtime announcers to say what he wanted said. This was most evident on the Pac Floyd broadcast.

[Haka]

Haymon also manipulated HBO and Showtime announcers to say what he wanted said. This was most evident on the Pac Floyd broadcast.

It alwalys seemed manufactured that an unattractive defensive fighter with questionable wins was transformed out of thin air into a some money type persona and got forcefully broadcasted through all networks in a time TV was much bigger and influencial than it is today.