Tyson v Bowe in 1996 who wins?

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Wrong.

No, Tyson did not sign to fight George Foreman in China. While there were discussions and a proposed $25 million offer from the Chinese government to stage a Tyson-Foreman fight in Beijing, neither boxer formally agreed to the bout. The main reason the fight never materialized was due to issues between Foreman and promoter Don King, rather than either boxer's unwillingness to face the other.

Contract Issues: Foreman did not sign the contract and returned it unsigned to King

Final Outcome:
The fight never happened due to the breakdown in negotiations between Foreman and Don King.

But there is only so much Don King can do to get the fight to happen if his own fighter is refusing vehemently(and can get away with that because of his value).

We can say many things about Don's character, screwing over people etc. but what everybody can agree on is that Don made the big fights happen. That is a fact. He's got the resume to prove it, and I think we can all also agree that Tyson vs Foreman would have been absolutely massive and broken records.

Tyson was scared. It's pretty obvious.

The D3vil
George Foreman post-boxing pretty much went on a tour praising every boxer he talked about including his former nemesis like Ali. Once he was done he only opened his mouth in a positive way putting everyone over himself even if it was untrue, with the exception of the one time he claimed he was poisoned before the Rumble in the jungle.

Now, if you were to watch how Foreman talked at the time when he was still a mean guy behind the persona trying to win the title back, he called out Tyson many times and made it obvious he wanted a piece of him and knew he would have destroyed him. He very bluntly stated that Tyson would be an easy fight because of his style, and in fact part of his decision to make a comeback was to get a fight against Tyson so he could be champ again.

Old interviews like this are still around:

[Anomalocaris]

Foreman even in '91 was all wrong for Mike and he knew it.

George at that time was not much slower than in his prime and besides speed was never his forte.

Awesomely brutal strength and power was though.

Mike swarms into him and gets decapitated by an uppercut.

Amd unlike Joe he would not keep getting up to walk back into the inferno.

[JAB5239]

But there is only so much Don King can do to get the fight to happen if his own fighter is refusing vehemently(and can get away with that because of his value).

We can say many things about Don's character, screwing over people etc. but what everybody can agree on is that Don made the big fights happen. That is a fact. He's got the resume to prove it, and I think we can all also agree that Tyson vs Foreman would have been absolutely massive and broken records.

Tyson was scared. It's pretty obvious.

The D3vil
George Foreman post-boxing pretty much went on a tour praising every boxer he talked about including his former nemesis like Ali. Once he was done he only opened his mouth in a positive way putting everyone over himself even if it was untrue, with the exception of the one time he claimed he was poisoned before the Rumble in the jungle.

Now, if you were to watch how Foreman talked at the time when he was still a mean guy behind the persona trying to win the title back, he called out Tyson many times and made it obvious he wanted a piece of him and knew he would have destroyed him. He very bluntly stated that Tyson would be an easy fight because of his style, and in fact part of his decision to make a comeback was to get a fight against Tyson so he could be champ again.

Old interviews like this are still around:

Whether Tyson was scared or not is irrelevant to my argument. The fact is the fight was never signed and only proposed my friend. Anything else is not my argument.

[Willie Pep 229]

Whether Tyson was scared or not is irrelevant to my argument. The fact is the fight was never signed and only proposed my friend. Anything else is not my argument.

Yes I agree and we need to recognize this as an example of, all those offers & guarantees we read about from the past. They have about the same lack of validity as this information does, and shouldn't be used to accuse a fighter of a 'duck.'

In prize fighting an offer is still quite a ways off from a deal.

[The D3vil]

But there is only so much Don King can do to get the fight to happen if his own fighter is refusing vehemently(and can get away with that because of his value).

We can say many things about Don's character, screwing over people etc. but what everybody can agree on is that Don made the big fights happen. That is a fact. He's got the resume to prove it, and I think we can all also agree that Tyson vs Foreman would have been absolutely massive and broken records.

Tyson was scared. It's pretty obvious.

The D3vil
George Foreman post-boxing pretty much went on a tour praising every boxer he talked about including his former nemesis like Ali. Once he was done he only opened his mouth in a positive way putting everyone over himself even if it was untrue, with the exception of the one time he claimed he was poisoned before the Rumble in the jungle.

Now, if you were to watch how Foreman talked at the time when he was still a mean guy behind the persona trying to win the title back, he called out Tyson many times and made it obvious he wanted a piece of him and knew he would have destroyed him. He very bluntly stated that Tyson would be an easy fight because of his style, and in fact part of his decision to make a comeback was to get a fight against Tyson so he could be champ again.

Old interviews like this are still around:

You mean, when he wanted to make money, he said one thing.

But when he was retired & had no reason to lie, he said something different?

Wow, you showed me bro.

While he was competing, of course he's going to say whatever it takes to entertain the public & keep people interested.

He had a lot less reason to lie after he retired & could be honest.

And why wouldn't he talk up Muhammad Ali? He beat him & was the best HW of all-time.

Fact is, there is no time in which Tyson/Foreman makes real sense.

In 1990, it couldn't happen because Tyson lost to Douglas & has to rebuild against Tillman & Stewart

In 1991, it couldn't happen because Tyson got tied up with Razor Ruddock, who was the #2 ranked contender by all weight classes (Tyson was #1)

Plus, Foreman lost to Holyfield, who Tyson was supposed to fight.

1992, Tyson doesn't fight

1993, Tyson doesn't fight

1994, Tyson doesn't fight

1995, Tyson gets out of prison, misses the first half of the year & fights McNeely & Mathis to get back into fighting shape

From that point on, Foreman isn't even really even in the discussion & is fighting people like Axel Schultz

There was literally no point in the '90s when a Tyson-Foreman fight really made sense.