Fighters who never got the respect they deserved

[Marchegiano]

TBF!



In defense of Queen's stance you guys are presenting a logical fallacy and even if he isn't going to call it out, it doesn't make it less true.


HW champion of the world - except the French, they don't count as "the world" nor do any influential people.


It's kinda, ya know, even if it was merely ceremonial so is your monarch and we still call chuckles king. Point being it wouldn't have happened if it was nothing, didn't matter, and didn't change anything. It matters just as much as John L being forced to put on a show like he might fight Godfrey to save face matters. Or Chuckles being called King matters.


I find it similar to the dichotomy presented in "fans" promoters can't be fans. authorities can't be fans. It's always us vs them and any hint it isn't will be met with confusion.

[Bronson66]

He was not speaking to the relationship between America and France in any sense...of course. And you know that.
He was speaking to the futility of assigning authority to a multitude of independent groups, who are historically noted for overstepping their boundaries.

It was a great point, so let's not muddle it.

The French Federation stripped Johnson of his title and the next day promoted Langford v Jeannette as for their version of the heavyweight title,less than 3 weeks later they stripped Langford do their spurious title and against recognized Johnson .

[QueensburyRules]

The French Federation stripped Johnson of his title and the next day promoted Langford v Jeannette as for their version of the heavyweight title,less than 3 weeks later they stripped Langford do their spurious title and against recognized Johnson .

- - So what? By then Sam back in the US and we know JJ was scared to death of Sam and wouldn't fight him as U would've been.

[QueensburyRules]

2 bit offers that would have been the highest payday in his career? Yea, ok

- - What, U fergit a court verdict assigned the value of that fight something like 20 bucks?

Look, I like most love Wills and Dempsey as Moxers and MEN, but we live in a feral society where people love to hate and start fights over ****** self created racial matters.

That would be U...yeah!!!

[travestyny]

- - What, U fergit a court verdict assigned the value of that fight something like 20 bucks?

Look, I like most love Wills and Dempsey as Moxers and MEN, but we live in a feral society where people love to hate and start fights over ****** self created racial matters.

That would be U...yeah!!!

No one said anything about race except you, dumbo.

You keep bringing up Frazee as a way to hide from the other offers that were made for this fight. Living in a "self created" world because you can't handle reality

[billeau2]

TBF!



In defense of Queen's stance you guys are presenting a logical fallacy and even if he isn't going to call it out, it doesn't make it less true.


HW champion of the world - except the French, they don't count as "the world" nor do any influential people.


It's kinda, ya know, even if it was merely ceremonial so is your monarch and we still call chuckles king. Point being it wouldn't have happened if it was nothing, didn't matter, and didn't change anything. It matters just as much as John L being forced to put on a show like he might fight Godfrey to save face matters. Or Chuckles being called King matters.


I find it similar to the dichotomy presented in "fans" promoters can't be fans. authorities can't be fans. It's always us vs them and any hint it isn't will be met with confusion.

Shiating on the French... The last guy to do that? the French cooked the turd in butter and served it up, and it tasted better than anything the guy had eaten. Do not fck with the French! Get in their face? you will get a nose to the eye guaranteed.

The Polish wanted to reach out and nuclear blast the Earth into a different trajectory so the Ifle tower would be straight!

[Bronson66]

- - So what? By then Sam back in the US and we know JJ was scared to death of Sam and wouldn't fight him as U would've been.

Except he wasn't
Langford was recognized as the world champion by the French Federation when he beat Joe Jeannette over 20 rds on the 20th of December 1913
We know Langford was in France in 1914 because on the 24th of January 1914 Langford ko'd Petty Officer Curran in Paris, in1 round,in a fight that was not recognized as being for any title!
In between these fights Langford was in London for Xmas.
Both Curran and Langford found themselves on the same London to Paris boat,when they met on deck.
After beating Curran, Langford returned to the UK boxed a 3 rounds exhibition with sparring partner Bob Armstrong onJan26th ,and did not embark for the US until Feb26th.His first fight back on native soil was against until Bill Watkins in NY on March 23rd

ps Johnson signed to defend his title against both Langford ,and McVey in Australia, and posted cash bonds to that effect, but when public opinion turned against Johnson .the promoter H D McIntosh cancelled the fights.

Do some research,it will prevent you continually making a fool of yourself with these made up statements!

[QueensburyRules]

Except he wasn't
Langford was recognized as the world champion by the French Federation when he beat Joe Jeannette over 20 rds on the 20th of December 1913
We know Langford was in France in 1914 because on the 24th of January 1914 Langford ko'd Petty Officer Curran in Paris, in1 round,in a fight that was not recognized as being for any title!
In between these fights Langford was in London for Xmas.
Both Curran and Langford found themselves on the same London to Paris boat,when they met on deck.
After beating Curran, Langford returned to the UK boxed a 3 rounds exhibition with sparring partner Bob Armstrong onJan26th ,and did not embark for the US until Feb26th.His first fight back on native soil was against until Bill Watkins in NY on March 23rd

ps Johnson signed to defend his title against both Langford ,and McVey in Australia, and posted cash bonds to that effect, but when public opinion turned against Johnson .the promoter H D McIntosh cancelled the fights.

Do some research,it will prevent you continually making a fool of yourself with these made up statements!

- - Well known that the National Sporting Club financed Johnson's voyage to Australia to fight Burns with the stipulation that if he won, he was contracted to return to England to fight Sam Langford.

Anything else U come up with is snails dipped in hog wash...yer welcome yet again...

[Willow The Wisp]

- - So what? By then Sam back in the US and we know JJ was scared to death of Sam and wouldn't fight him as U would've been.

Do we know that?

[Ben Bolt]

Bernardo Comas at 64: “I was the only person who thought I could beat Uusivirta. I will
never forget that knockout. I was the world champion and I wasn’t even 22 years old.”

Although he is an amateur in this bout, I was surprised to see Nunn looking so amateurish.