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What Is Your Opinion About Jake Lamotta? Was He An ATG?
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Originally posted by max baer View Postlamotta.jpg
When I watched Raging Bull around 2001 I couldn't stop laughing with diniro and pesci.
Such a great film. He goes "i don't think he likes me " and pesci goes "so what, no one likes you, you oughta be used to that by now."
Or when he accuses his rival of shagging his wife and his paranoia notes ai. I thought it was so funny that film.
But where do you guys rank Lamotta? Had been managed right could he have being an ATG?
Was he over rated? What did the mob do to his chances?max baer likes this.
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The original Rocky was a great movie. I don't know if I'd consider it a boxing movie, its more a story about these noticeably flawed people during 70s America, and how an extraordinary bit of luck changed their lives. They tried to replicate it in Rocky II but couldnt, so just decided to make fun superhero movies for 3 & 4- nothing wrong with that.
I imagine some boxing fans would say that there are no good boxing movies because they are so knowledgeable about boxing, that they see all the Hollywood flaws related to the sport itself. But this is the case for anyone who is an expert. I once chatted up an elevator inspector who came to my work, dude was REALLY into elevators, he went on about how he and his wife would mock action movies while in theaters when they had elevator crashes- "that would never happen", he'd deride.
Sometimes, we need to have a temporary suspension of disbelief for technical aspect or things of that nature, to be able to enjoy a film. Or in the cases of Rockys 3 & 4, treat them more like action/super hero flicks.max baer likes this.
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Originally posted by DeeMoney View PostThe original Rocky was a great movie. I don't know if I'd consider it a boxing movie, its more a story about these noticeably flawed people during 70s America, and how an extraordinary bit of luck changed their lives. They tried to replicate it in Rocky II but couldnt, so just decided to make fun superhero movies for 3 & 4- nothing wrong with that.
I imagine some boxing fans would say that there are no good boxing movies because they are so knowledgeable about boxing, that they see all the Hollywood flaws related to the sport itself. But this is the case for anyone who is an expert. I once chatted up an elevator inspector who came to my work, dude was REALLY into elevators, he went on about how he and his wife would mock action movies while in theaters when they had elevator crashes- "that would never happen", he'd deride.
Sometimes, we need to have a temporary suspension of disbelief for technical aspect or things of that nature, to be able to enjoy a film. Or in the cases of Rockys 3 & 4, treat them more like action/super hero flicks.
It would be better remembered, i.e. respected today, had there never been a sequel
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Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post
Rocky was a great film. One of the top boxing films made.
It would be better remembered, i.e. respected today, had there never been a sequel
You can argue about Glasnost and Perestroika, about Reagan calling on Gorbachev to 'tear down that wall', of the work of Walesa and those who resisted behind the Iron Curtain. But we all know the real reason we have freedom today.Willie Pep 229
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Originally posted by DeeMoney View Post
But then we wouldve lost the Cold War. Soviets saw that even with steroids that they couldnt overcome American grit and determination. Then, when Rocky offered the olive branch- "if I can change, you can change, everyone can change..." well it was over.
You can argue about Glasnost and Perestroika, about Reagan calling on Gorbachev to 'tear down that wall', of the work of Walesa and those who resisted behind the Iron Curtain. But we all know the real reason we have freedom today.
By the way queenie never posts at weekends. It must be that his privileges at the sanatorium are only during the week so long as he keeps his fists out of the nurses faces and doesn't try to escape again!Last edited by max baer; 04-27-2025, 06:05 PM.
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Originally posted by max baer View Post
Ha ha and david hasslehoff brought down the berlin wall! google it, he did! and he had a talking car in the eighties!
By the way queenie never posts at weekends. It must be that his privileges at the sanatorium are only during the week so long as he keeps his fists out of the nurses faces and doesn't try to escape again!
A little bit true a little be Trump.
Of course it was a hundred different things that brought it down.
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Originally posted by DeeMoney View PostThe original Rocky was a great movie. I don't know if I'd consider it a boxing movie, its more a story about these noticeably flawed people during 70s America, and how an extraordinary bit of luck changed their lives. They tried to replicate it in Rocky II but couldnt, so just decided to make fun superhero movies for 3 & 4- nothing wrong with that.
I imagine some boxing fans would say that there are no good boxing movies because they are so knowledgeable about boxing, that they see all the Hollywood flaws related to the sport itself. But this is the case for anyone who is an expert. I once chatted up an elevator inspector who came to my work, dude was REALLY into elevators, he went on about how he and his wife would mock action movies while in theaters when they had elevator crashes- "that would never happen", he'd deride.
Sometimes, we need to have a temporary suspension of disbelief for technical aspect or things of that nature, to be able to enjoy a film. Or in the cases of Rockys 3 & 4, treat them more like action/super hero flicks.
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