Biggest Wasted Potential?

[Spray_resistant]

1. Zab Judah- Had a great career, he just lacked mental fortitude when it mattered.
2. Jeff Lacy- Wasn't that talented
3. Deontay Wilder- He over achieved if anything
4. Leon Spinks- IDK a little before my time
5. Adrian Broner- Fits the bill for wasted potential
6. Andy Ruiz- Fat boy his own fault
7. Allen Green- Had alot of talent but chinny
8. Jermall Charlo- He did about what you could expect given his talent and skill
9. Kelly pavlik- Pretty basic fighter with size and power for 160 did good all things considered
10. Ray Mercer- Wasn't massively talented especially for the HW era he fought in.
11. James DeGale- Typical domestic level brit
12. Victor Ortiz- Had talent but similar issues to Zab
13. Gary Russell Jr.- Fits the bill for wasted potential
14. Andre Berto- Massively overrated, he was stopped by Soto Karass FFS!
15. Abner Mares- What? 4 division world champion had a great career.

[GhostofDempsey]

Tony Ayala Jr.
Gary Russell Jr.
Edwin Valero

[HisExcellency]

Valero hands down...2 division champion with 27 KO's out of 27 fights who died when he was being lined up to fight Manny Pacquiao.

What a tragic story and waste of talent.

[billeau2]

Should we add Tank to the list after the Roach fight ???? Lol

[billeau2]

1. Zab Judah- Had a great career, he just lacked mental fortitude when it mattered.
2. Jeff Lacy- Wasn't that talented
3. Deontay Wilder- He over achieved if anything
4. Leon Spinks- IDK a little before my time
5. Adrian Broner- Fits the bill for wasted potential
6. Andy Ruiz- Fat boy his own fault
7. Allen Green- Had alot of talent but chinny
8. Jermall Charlo- He did about what you could expect given his talent and skill
9. Kelly pavlik- Pretty basic fighter with size and power for 160 did good all things considered
10. Ray Mercer- Wasn't massively talented especially for the HW era he fought in.
11. James DeGale- Typical domestic level brit
12. Victor Ortiz- Had talent but similar issues to Zab
13. Gary Russell Jr.- Fits the bill for wasted potential
14. Andre Berto- Massively overrated, he was stopped by Soto Karass FFS!
15. Abner Mares- What? 4 division world champion had a great career.

It's funny with Jeff Lacey. Apparently at one time he looked quite good. I do remember him having an excellent left hook.

[MalevolentBite]

1. Zab Judah- Had a great career, he just lacked mental fortitude when it mattered.
2. Jeff Lacy- Wasn't that talented
3. Deontay Wilder- He over achieved if anything
4. Leon Spinks- IDK a little before my time
5. Adrian Broner- Fits the bill for wasted potential
6. Andy Ruiz- Fat boy his own fault
7. Allen Green- Had alot of talent but chinny
8. Jermall Charlo- He did about what you could expect given his talent and skill
9. Kelly pavlik- Pretty basic fighter with size and power for 160 did good all things considered
10. Ray Mercer- Wasn't massively talented especially for the HW era he fought in.
11. James DeGale- Typical domestic level brit
12. Victor Ortiz- Had talent but similar issues to Zab
13. Gary Russell Jr.- Fits the bill for wasted potential
14. Andre Berto- Massively overrated, he was stopped by Soto Karass FFS!
15. Abner Mares- What? 4 division world champion had a great career.

Thank you for taking the time to reponse and give great detailed information on your thoughts.

1. With Zabs skill sets and natural abilities. He could had been an all time great but he will never be highly rated base on his career.

2. During his time he was highly rated as the next big thing. Was he over hyped or did Joe take his soul? We will never know.

3. His height and length and natural power if Deontay wilder was trainable he could had been way better than he was. That's my point with him. He had things that you can only be born with. Yes he started late but he had a damn bronze medal.

4. Leon and his brother had a great pedigree and alot of people saw Leon as the better brother over micheal which now sounds crazy. He did like to party and do drugs.

5. We agree

6. I agree. Still think he could had been better.

7. I agree. When he looked good. He looked good.

8. He has alot of demons that derailed his career. Having mental issues and getting hit in the head is a recipe for disaster.

9. Kinda like Charlo. he had demons.

10. Totally disagree. Best chin in the 90s during his short prime. Great power but never really put it together when it really mattered. Gave prime Lennox a great fight.

11. I need more English people to chime in on this one since I am American. But he was massively pushed from the UK and he won a medal. Maybe he got lucky idk.

12. Agreed. I also think he's a quitter.

13. We both agree.

14. Totally disagree. That Victor fight took alot out of him. Mentally he wasn't the same. Berto looked great during those HBO days. Honestly he was never the same after thar fight.

15 Abner was a great talent but he didn't achieve that great hall of fame caliber career that will bring remembered. I think he could had been like another Erik Morles or Ricardo Lopez. I don't think he will be remembered. Atleast not by this generation. He will never be top ten Mexicans.

[MalevolentBite]

It's funny with Jeff Lacey. Apparently at one time he looked quite good. I do remember him having an excellent left hook.

Left Hook was highly rated during his peak. He was a boogeyman. He was even the favorite to beat Joe. Then boom. His career took a nose dive. He never worked on his other skillsets. Maybe he was a hype train but he was highly rated during that time lol.

[MalevolentBite]

Valero hands down...2 division champion with 27 KO's out of 27 fights who died when he was being lined up to fight Manny Pacquiao.

What a tragic story and waste of talent.

Dude! Did you read my post??? I am not including people who committed a crime and got arrested. We will be here all day if we did that.

[MalevolentBite]

Tony Ayala Jr.
Gary Russell Jr.
Edwin Valero

I didn't want to include people who committed a crime and got arrested.

[billeau2]

Left Hook was highly rated during his peak. He was a boogeyman. He was even the favorite to beat Joe. Then boom. His career took a nose dive. He never worked on his other skillsets. Maybe he was a hype train but he was highly rated during that time lol.

I'm going to try to take a look at some of this fights today lol if the wife will give me time.