Dariusz Michalszewski's place in history

[Bronson66]

This is the other side of the proverbial coin. I think Jab's arguments for Dariuz being top ten is compelling. He did beat some tough competition. But Jones was in the bigger fish pond so to speak. Tough division with a lot of excellent fighters...

I can't in all conscience place him above the following.

Moore
Foster
Conn
Spinks
H Johnson
Lewis
Loughran
Saad
Jones Jnr
Qawi
Delaney
Moorer
Beterbiev
Then there are non title holders
Tunney
Greb
Langford
Bivins
Charles
Marshall
Plus 50/50 fights with the likes of
Berlenbach
Rosenbloom
Maxim
Mustapha
Conteh
Galindez
M Johnson
Kovalev
Stevenson
Stribling
I thought that stunt he pulled against Rochiggiani, rolling around the canvas to get his challenger dsq'd was pretty disgraceful too.

[Bronson66]

- Dariusz whooped Virgil Hill before Roy did.

Dariusz can't fight but those put in front of him, including the big duck by Roy when Dariusz showed up on HBO in Florida promoting a legacy fight with Roy who was HBO's boy.

Like I stated, the Big$$$ was in Germany, not the peanuts Roy was making while ducking Dariusz.

Jus da facts, ma'am

So the fact that Dariusz only defended against a handful of Ring ranked contenders wasn't his fault,he is entirely blameless on that front?
If Dariusz was making this fortune,how come his career earnings are less than half Jones'?

[billeau2]

He got the Joe Calzaghe package deal. Highly rated by Europeans but not Highly respected by Americans. If they both would had fought or fought more in America during their primes they would had been more respected. Its Just an american thing. America media makes or breaks a boxing star. Just like Basketball.

There's sports where America media isn't overall respected like Soccer/ football. Maybe even Tennis.

This is the other side of the proverbial coin. I think Jab's arguments for Dariuz being top ten is compelling. He did beat some tough competition. But Jones was in the bigger fish pond so to speak. Tough division with a lot of excellent fighters...

[QueensburyRules]

To take it two steps backward, before media was nationalized, you can see that New York was the 'mecca' media (newspaper) of boxing. (1920 - 1950)

If you didn't fight in New York it was almost impossible to rise to the 'big time,' e.g. Charley Burley.

Today you must fight in Vegas.
100 years ago you had to fight in New York

- - Turki in the Saudi Kingdom is where to go now. He also booted Oscar out of the Ring along with Doogie. Nary a peep or squeak out of those two since.

[The D3vil]

Ugh, not this again.

The truly great European fighters came to America & beat American talent like Lennox, Fury, GGG, Loma, Usyk, The Klitschkos, etc. ...

If he didn't come over, it's likely because he knew that he didn't have what it takes.

It'd be like me claiming I'm the best soccer player, but refuse to leave America to play in Europe where all the respected players play.

[Willie Pep 229]

He got the Joe Calzaghe package deal. Highly rated by Europeans but not Highly respected by Americans. If they both would had fought or fought more in America during their primes they would had been more respected. Its Just an american thing. America media makes or breaks a boxing star. Just like Basketball.

There's sports where America media isn't overall respected like Soccer/ football. Maybe even Tennis.

To take it two steps backward, before media was nationalized, you can see that New York was the 'mecca' media (newspaper) of boxing. (1920 - 1950)

If you didn't fight in New York it was almost impossible to rise to the 'big time,' e.g. Charley Burley.

Today you must fight in Vegas.
100 years ago you had to fight in New York

[MalevolentBite]

He got the Joe Calzaghe package deal. Highly rated by Europeans but not Highly respected by Americans. If they both would had fought or fought more in America during their primes they would had been more respected. Its Just an american thing. America media makes or breaks a boxing star. Just like Basketball.

There's sports where America media isn't overall respected like Soccer/ football. Maybe even Tennis.

[Bronson66]

Dariusz'z career earnings are estimated at 30million Euros.

Jones at $55 million.

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Dariusz's current worth is estimated at 1 million Euros
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Jones at $7 million.

As we have just had the Oscars I thought this bit of acting might be topical?

SKANDALKAMPF Dariusz Michalczewski vs. Graciano Rocchigiani - Tiger vs. Rocky Teil 1 *FULL FIGHT *

• Rocchigiani lost via disqualification to WBO light-heavyweight title holder Dariusz Michalczewski after hitting Michalczewski on the break during round seven. Michalczewski's prolonged, theatrical reaction to the punch was seen by many as way of getting out of a fight he was losing. Initially the result was a technical draw, later changed to a disqualification.

[QueensburyRules]

- Dariusz whooped Virgil Hill before Roy did.

Dariusz can't fight but those put in front of him, including the big duck by Roy when Dariusz showed up on HBO in Florida promoting a legacy fight with Roy who was HBO's boy.

Like I stated, the Big$$$ was in Germany, not the peanuts Roy was making while ducking Dariusz.

Jus da facts, ma'am

[Bronson66]

- - Dariuz was at the gushing headwaters of the European take over of the heavier weights of boxing that is still an ongoing battle thankfully. See Beter vs Bivol giving us a magnificent trilogy.

• Michalczewski won the WBO light heavyweight title with a 12 round decision over Leeonzer Barber in 1994.
• Defeated reigning IBF, WBA and lineal light heavyweight champion Virgil Hill on June 13, 1997
• Won the WBO cruiserweight title in December 1994, beating Nestor Hipolito Giovannini, before returning to light heavyweight.
• Made 23 successful defenses of his light heavyweight title from 1994-2003.
• He came within one fight of tying Rocky Marciano's career record of 49-0, but lost his 49th fight to Julio Cesar Gonzalez on a split decision in October 2003.
• Michalczewski also defeated Montell Griffin, Richard Hall, Graciano Rocchigiani, and Drake Thadzi.
• In February 2005, after 14 months of inactivity, he returned to challenge Fabrice Tiozzo for the WBA light heavyweight title and lost on a sixth round TKO.

Amateur Record: 133-15-2 (83 KO's)

• 1986 - European Junior Semi-Finalist in the middleweight division, defeating Fabrice Tiozzo but losing to Ray Close
• 1990 - German National Champion in the light heavyweight division
• 1991 - European Champion in the light heavyweight division

Professional record


Championship Record

• Has defeated 22 opponents (19 by KO) in World Title fights.
  • 21 opponents (18 by KO) for the World Light Heavyweight Title.
  • 1 opponent (1 by KO) for the World Cruiserweight Title.
• Has a record of 25-2 (20 KOs) in World Title fights.

Defended against only 5 Ring ranked challengers.
Missed,among others
Tate
McCallum
Sosa
DeValle
Guthrie
Nunn
Johnson
Tarver
G Johnson
Telesco
Too many gimmees imo.
Very good but not great,imo,and I don't see him beating Lewis whom Eddie Futch named as the greatest light heavyweight he ever saw, I also doubt he would beat Dillon .
He would however give any title holder a good battle,he was strong, aggressive, and hit hard.I guess I'd have him around no 25?