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  • Bronson66
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    Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post
    - - Dariuz was at the gushing headwaters of the European take over of the heavier weights of boxing that is still an ongoing battle thankfully. See Beter vs Bivol giving us a magnificent trilogy.Amateur Record: 133-15-2 (83 KO's)
    • 1986 - European Junior Semi-Finalist in the middleweight division, defeating Fabrice Tiozzo but losing to Ray Close
    • 1990 - German National Champion in the light heavyweight division
    • 1991 - European Champion in the light heavyweight division
    Professional record


    Championship Record
    • Has defeated 22 opponents (19 by KO) in World Title fights.
      • 21 opponents (18 by KO) for the World Light Heavyweight Title.
      • 1 opponent (1 by KO) for the World Cruiserweight Title.
    • Has a record of 25-2 (20 KOs) in World Title fights.

    Only beat 5 Ring ranked challengers,Hall and Giovannini were never ranked by The Ring.Too many gimmees on Daruisz's resume for me.
    A good or very good fighter,but imo, not a great one.
    Virgil Hill is often criticized for cherry picking,but he actually beat more Ring ranked opponents than Dariusz .

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  • QueensburyRules
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    - - Dariuz was at the gushing headwaters of the European take over of the heavier weights of boxing that is still an ongoing battle thankfully. See Beter vs Bivol giving us a magnificent trilogy.Amateur Record: 133-15-2 (83 KO's)
    • 1986 - European Junior Semi-Finalist in the middleweight division, defeating Fabrice Tiozzo but losing to Ray Close
    • 1990 - German National Champion in the light heavyweight division
    • 1991 - European Champion in the light heavyweight division
    Professional record


    Championship Record
    • Has defeated 22 opponents (19 by KO) in World Title fights.
      • 21 opponents (18 by KO) for the World Light Heavyweight Title.
      • 1 opponent (1 by KO) for the World Cruiserweight Title.
    • Has a record of 25-2 (20 KOs) in World Title fights.

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  • Bronson66
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    Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
    What is Michalszewski 's pace in history at lightheavyweight? He was the lineal champion while Roy collected the belts. He beat as good of comp as Roy Roys, and their resumrs at that weight are pretty even. The IBRO has Jones ranked 10th all time at 175, yet Michalszewski isn't in the top 20. Is this a miscarriage of justice or warranted? Dariusz had an excellent skillset. In fact I have no doubt he is the most skilled fighter besides Andre Ward and Jones since his era. He would in my opinion undoubtedly be champion today. So where should he rank historically? Certainly he has a better lightheavyweight resume than Fitzsimmons who ranks 11th on that list. My point being.....I get Jones being rated, I don't get why Michalazweski isn't when their lightheavyweight careers were so similar.
    I believe,
    Jones has 10 defences against Ring ranked opponents out of,15 Successful defences.
    Michalczewski 5 ,out of 24 successful defences.
    Last edited by Bronson66; 03-17-2025, 09:59 AM.
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  • Dr Z
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    Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

    His lightheavyweight resume is as good as Jones in my opinion, and he was the lineal champion. I don't think he would have beaten Jones, but that's just an opinion. If Roy is ranked tenth, surely Michalszewski deserves top 20 consideration.
    Jones is tough to rank as he was KTFO by one punch and later on Ko' badly by a medicore contender. He was on ROIDS ( I think ) for most of his career. On the ohter hand he won some big fights and had brilliant skills and speed.

    I agree that DM should be ranked within the top 25 of all time at light heavyweight.

    Care to list his best ten wins in your opinion?

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  • billeau2
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    I honestly just do not know much about him. Going to watch some tape.
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  • JAB5239
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    Originally posted by Dr Z View Post
    What are his top ten wins? He lacks an epic win, but he never got a chance to get one.
    His lightheavyweight resume is as good as Jones in my opinion, and he was the lineal champion. I don't think he would have beaten Jones, but that's just an opinion. If Roy is ranked tenth, surely Michalszewski deserves top 20 consideration.
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  • JAB5239
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    Originally posted by Nash out View Post

    Yes, this is true. The only thing the Great Nash remembers about him is him and Roy Jones Jr not fighting. Thankfully, Nash has already went down in history, many have paused in awe of the great man. Nash out - His Most Majestic Majesty
    you kill me!!
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  • Dr Z
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    What are his top ten wins? He lacks an epic win, but he never got a chance to get one.

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  • Nash out
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    Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post
    Ah! The resume boys are making their resume arguments again.

    His place in history = none.

    Give me some drama. Something extraordinary, something special, something awe inspiring.

    Who cares what he would have done today. That's not history.

    He was there, he did his thing, He's got a resume.

    But nobody remembers him and nobody ever will.

    This is the history of prize fighting. Drama! Where's the drama?

    Achievment alone will not get you remembered.

    A million soldiers have given their lives in defense of our liberty, "each gave the last full measure of devotion." But still we only remember the few.

    Why? Drama. We walk past the graves of thousands never noticing them, just so we can pause in awe at the monuments to the few.

    It's not fair, but it's history.

    Sorry just ranting again about the nature of history.

    In direct response. I barely noticed the guy when he was fighting and then forgot him completely. He goes the way, of the group of most of us, into the bin of oblivion. His resume isn't going to change that.
    Yes, this is true. The only thing the Great Nash remembers about him is him and Roy Jones Jr not fighting. Thankfully, Nash has already went down in history, many have paused in awe of the great man. Nash out - His Most Majestic Majesty
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  • Willie Pep 229
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    Ah! The resume boys are making their resume arguments again.

    His place in history = none.

    Give me some drama. Something extraordinary, something special, something awe inspiring.

    Who cares what he would have done today. That's not history.

    He was there, he did his thing, He's got a resume.

    But nobody remembers him and nobody ever will.

    This is the history of prize fighting. Drama! Where's the drama?

    Achievment alone will not get you remembered.

    A million soldiers have given their lives in defense of our liberty, "each gave the last full measure of devotion." But still we only remember the few.

    Why? Drama. We walk past the graves of thousands never noticing them, just so we can pause in awe at the monuments to the few.

    It's not fair, but it's history.

    Sorry just ranting again about the nature of history.

    In direct response. I barely noticed the guy when he was fighting and then forgot him completely. He goes the way, of the group of most of us, into the bin of oblivion. His resume isn't going to change that.
    Last edited by Willie Pep 229; 03-16-2025, 03:53 PM.
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