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  • #41
    Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

    When Quarry fought Patterson he was 193. Early in Beterbiev's career he weighed in the mid 180's with day before weigh ins. Even at 175 and day before weigh ins he is known to put 10, 15lbs on by fight time. That makes them nearly identical in size.
    Ok that's not what I asked. When has Beterbiev ever been 200 lbs?

    When has he ever even been 193 lbs? Do you have any evidence that Beterbiev put on 15 lbs on fight night?

    Are you aware what the word "identical" means? Not sure you are.
    Last edited by IronDanHamza; 02-11-2025, 02:47 PM.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

      Ok that's not what I asked. When has Beterbiev ever been 200 lbs?

      When has he ever even been 193 lbs? Do you have any evidence that Beterbiev put on 15 lbs on fight night?

      Are you aware what the word "identical" means? Not sure you are.
      You're obviously to slow to remember that this conversation started in the other threads about the best fighter from 180 to the 190's. So what does 200lbs have to do with anything? And are you really that dense that you don't think Beterbiev puts on 10 to 15lbs after weighing in and before a fight? You've obviously never fought before or had to make a certain weight to compete in a combat sport. Are you aware of what the word "nearly means"? Not sure you are.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

        You're obviously to slow to remember that this conversation started in the other threads about the best fighter from 180 to the 190's. So what does 200lbs have to do with anything? And are you really that dense that you don't think Beterbiev puts on 10 to 15lbs after weighing in and before a fight? You've obviously never fought before or had to make a certain weight to compete in a combat sport. Are you aware of what the word "nearly means"? Not sure you are.
        200 lbs has to do with it because that's what Jerry Quarry weighed for the most part you idiot Beterbiev has never weighed 200 lbs as far as I'm aware.

        Since you've refused to answer I'll ask you the same question again. Do you have any evidence of Beterbiev gaining 15 lbs on fight night?

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        • #44
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

          200 lbs has to do with it because that's what Jerry Quarry weighed for the most part you idiot Beterbiev has never weighed 200 lbs as far as I'm aware.

          Since you've refused to answer I'll ask you the same question again. Do you have any evidence of Beterbiev gaining 15 lbs on fight night?
          Quarry started his career at 183lbs. Beterbiev 184 3/4. Both Quarry and Beterbiev competed at heavyweight as amatuers with Quarry usually weighing around 195lbs (from what I've read) and Artur at 200lbs.

          And Jerry Quarry didn't weigh 200lbs for the most part. 43 of his 66 fights were under 200lbs. Two thirds of his fights under 200lbs, Quarry weighed 200lbs for the most part? Again, You like to make things up. And nobody is saying Beterbiev is weighing 200lbs as a pro, this is something you're making up again.

          Do I have proof he puts on 10 to 15lbs between the weigh in and actual fight? No. I'm just using common sense, and and educated guess based on my own personal experiences having to make weight for wrestling, boxing, MMA and kickboxing, Beterbiev's amateur weight and his age. Do you actually believe he isn't putting on weight after weigh ins?

          like I said, they're nearly identical in size.

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          • #45
            If Quarry fought today he would probably fight at lightheavyweight with day before weigh ins. If Beterbiev fought when Quarry did, he'd probably of also fought at heavyweight with same day weigh ins. Does anyone disagree?
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            • #46
              Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

              Quarry started his career at 183lbs. Beterbiev 184 3/4. Both Quarry and Beterbiev competed at heavyweight as amatuers with Quarry usually weighing around 195lbs (from what I've read) and Artur at 200lbs.

              And Jerry Quarry didn't weigh 200lbs for the most part. 43 of his 66 fights were under 200lbs. Two thirds of his fights under 200lbs, Quarry weighed 200lbs for the most part? Again, You like to make things up. And nobody is saying Beterbiev is weighing 200lbs as a pro, this is something you're making up again.
              Well yeah more specifically between 197-202 around that mark. So roughly 200 lbs, for the most part would be more accurate. Not literally 200 exactly.

              Beterbiev, never those weights, ever.

              So no, not nearly identical at all.​

              Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
              Do I have proof he puts on 10 to 15lbs between the weigh in and actual fight? No.

              Right, didn't think so.​

              Until you do you can shut the fuck up.


              Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
              I'm just using common sense, and and educated guess based on my own personal experiences having to make weight for wrestling, boxing, MMA and kickboxing, Beterbiev's amateur weight and his age. Do you actually believe he isn't putting on weight after weigh ins?

              like I said, they're nearly identical in size.
              Oh that's weird because you ask other posters for evidence to back up their claims all the time. You're the biggest hypocrite on this site

              Yeah, no. I never said he doesn't put weight on after weigh ins. I challenged you provide evidence for your claim that he puts on 15 lbs after a weigh in and oh looky you don't have any I.e you made it up.

              They aren't nearly identical in size at all.

              Quarry was a heavyweight. By today's standards a Crusierweight.

              Beterbiev is a Light Heavyweight.

              They are not the same size no matter how many times you say it and pull baseless numbers out of thin air.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
                If Quarry fought today he would probably fight at lightheavyweight with day before weigh ins. If Beterbiev fought when Quarry did, he'd probably of also fought at heavyweight with same day weigh ins. Does anyone disagree?
                You have absolutely no idea if that's true. Zero.

                Would he, wouldn't he? I don't know. No one does.

                All we can go off is what actually happened which he weighed around the 200 lb mark for most of his fights which Beterbiev has never done once.

                Those are the facts of the matter. Stick to those.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
                  If Quarry fought today he would probably fight at lightheavyweight with day before weigh ins. If Beterbiev fought when Quarry did, he'd probably of also fought at heavyweight with same day weigh ins. Does anyone disagree?
                  Lol A lot of possibilities here: Yes he could have done that, he could have also said "weak division and I am doing the George Jefferson" (Moving on up). So hard to imagine how a fighter that came up during the "KIng" era, who would fight at the drop of a hat, would react to the likes of Satanic Bob, Warren and Eddie saying things like "Don't fight heavy you may lose!"

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

                    Well yeah more specifically between 197-202 around that mark. So roughly 200 lbs, for the most part would be more accurate. Not literally 200 exactly.

                    Beterbiev, never those weights, ever.

                    So no, not nearly identical at all.​




                    Right, didn't think so.​

                    Until you do you can shut the fuck up.




                    Oh that's weird because you ask other posters for evidence to back up their claims all the time. You're the biggest hypocrite on this site

                    Yeah, no. I never said he doesn't put weight on after weigh ins. I challenged you provide evidence for your claim that he puts on 15 lbs after a weigh in and oh looky you don't have any I.e you made it up.

                    They aren't nearly identical in size at all.

                    Quarry was a heavyweight. By today's standards a Crusierweight.

                    Beterbiev is a Light Heavyweight.

                    They are not the same size no matter how many times you say it and pull baseless numbers out of thin air.
                    You are and idiot. You can say whatever weight you want to guess at, but the FACT is you made a number up and I proved you wrong.

                    Beterbiev fought amateur at 200lbs, so you cant say never. Maybe you need to shut the **** now, tough guy.

                    If you used just a bit of common sense you could see how close in actual size they are. But common sense isn't your strong suit.

                    Ok, Quarry was a Cruiserweight by today's standards. What would Beterbiev be if he had to do same day weigh ins? because when he did as an amateur he fought at 200lbs.

                    I've backed up my claim with reason and logic. You never said he didn't put on weight, but you will certainly argue till your blue in the face against something you have never personally experienced. Sorry I'm not privy to fight night weight, but I can guarantee he puts on between 10 and 15lbs by fight time. You wanting some sort of documentation only shows you can harp on one point and not use your own brain.

                    Beterbiev fights at lightheavyweight, but if he had to do same day weigh ins he would be a Cruiserweight. Just like Quarry if he fought today. Quarry may even make the 175 limit with day before weigh ins.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

                      You have absolutely no idea if that's true. Zero.

                      Would he, wouldn't he? I don't know. No one does.

                      All we can go off is what actually happened which he weighed around the 200 lb mark for most of his fights which Beterbiev has never done once.

                      Those are the facts of the matter. Stick to those.
                      Again, for the slow and brain dead.....Quarry weighed under 200lbs for two thirds of his fights. You can look it up yourself instead continually lying. In fact I did it for you, but please feel free to go behind and redo the math. For his career and same day weigh ins Quarry average 187.2lbs. Just take the total of his weights and divide it by the number of fights. Are you going to tell me that's 200lbs or that Beterbiev isn't right around there on fight night? Good luck convincing ANYONE!!

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