Quarry v Beterbiev?

[JAB5239]

Lol A lot of possibilities here: Yes he could have done that, he could have also said "weak division and I am doing the George Jefferson" (Moving on up). So hard to imagine how a fighter that came up during the "KIng" era, who would fight at the drop of a hat, would react to the likes of Satanic Bob, Warren and Eddie saying things like "Don't fight heavy you may lose!"

Lol, good points!

[IronDanHamza]

You are and idiot. You can say whatever weight you want to guess at, but the FACT is you made a number up and I proved you wrong.

No clue what you're even talking about here.

Where did I make up a number? I said 200 lbs, I meant that as in roughly 200 lbs because the majority of his fights he weighed in between 197-203 range. I clarified that in my next post. So what number am I making up?

Beterbiev fought amateur at 200lbs, so you cant say never. Maybe you need to shut the **** now, tough guy.

Not interested in what he weighed as an amateur. This discussion is about their pro careers. Plenty of fighters fought at heavier weights as amateurs than they did as pros, they aren't judged in their pro rankings for that.

If you used just a bit of common sense you could see how close in actual size they are. But common sense isn't your strong suit.

This is like a flat earther when he's asked to provide evidence but instead provides "common sense" and thinks he did something

When you have evidence of your claim then provide it. Until then you shut your mouth.

Ok, Quarry was a Cruiserweight by today's standards. What would Beterbiev be if he had to do same day weigh ins? because when he did as an amateur he fought at 200lbs.

Right, a cruseirweight.

Beterbiev is a LHW and never weighed any where close to 200 lbs as a pro.

They aren't the same size.

I've backed up my claim with reason and logic. You never said he didn't put on weight, but you will certainly argue till your blue in the face against something you have never personally experienced. Sorry I'm not privy to fight night weight, but I can guarantee he puts on between 10 and 15lbs by fight time. You wanting some sort of documentation only shows you can harp on one point and not use your own brain.

You actually cannot gurantee that at all. You don't know what the words you use mean.

You made a claim, you have ZERO evdience for it. You didn't "back it up" in any capacity outside of just saying it. You don't know what it means to "back up a claim". You need to actually provide evidence for it.

Beterbiev fights at lightheavyweight, but if he had to do same day weigh ins he would be a Cruiserweight. Just like Quarry if he fought today. Quarry may even make the 175 limit with day before weigh ins.

Again, you have not even the first idea if this is in any way true.

This is the literal epitome of speculation.

[IronDanHamza]

Lol A lot of possibilities here: Yes he could have done that, he could have also said "weak division and I am doing the George Jefferson" (Moving on up). So hard to imagine how a fighter that came up during the "KIng" era, who would fight at the drop of a hat, would react to the likes of Satanic Bob, Warren and Eddie saying things like "Don't fight heavy you may lose!"

He could have fought at Super Middle and died the next day due to the fact he'd chopped his arm off to make the weight.

He could have found a magic shrinking potion and fought at Welterweight and given Mayweather his first and only loss.

He could have starred in Black Panther.

It's irrelevant and baseless what could have happened because we don't know and never will.

[IronDanHamza]

Again, for the slow and brain dead.....Quarry weighed under 200lbs for two thirds of his fights. You can look it up yourself instead continually lying. In fact I did it for you, but please feel free to go behind and redo the math. For his career and same day weigh ins Quarry average 187.2lbs. Just take the total of his weights and divide it by the number of fights. Are you going to tell me that's 200lbs or that Beterbiev isn't right around there on fight night? Good luck convincing ANYONE!!

Where have I lied? Do you know what a "lie" is?

I have literally clarified my positon further when I said 200 lbs that I didn't mean it literally. I can't be more clear on that.

Or are we now going to pretend that Quarry's weight in his prime years wasn't between 197-203?

[JAB5239]

No clue what you're even talking about here.

Where did I make up a number? I said 200 lbs, I meant that as in roughly 200 lbs because the majority of his fights he weighed in between 197-203 range. I clarified that in my next post. So what number am I making up?



Not interested in what he weighed as an amateur. This discussion is about their pro careers. Plenty of fighters fought at heavier weights as amateurs than they did as pros, they aren't judged in their pro rankings for that.



This is like a flat earther when he's asked to provide evidence but instead provides "common sense" and thinks he did something

When you have evidence of your claim then provide it. Until then you shut your mouth.



Right, a cruseirweight.

Beterbiev is a LHW and never weighed any where close to 200 lbs as a pro.

They aren't the same size.



You actually cannot gurantee that at all. You don't know what the words you use mean.

You made a claim, you have ZERO evdience for it. You didn't "back it up" in any capacity outside of just saying it. You don't know what it means to "back up a claim". You need to actually provide evidence for it.




Again, you have not even the first idea if this is in any way true.

This is the literal epitome of speculation.

Of course you have no idea, because you have no common sense or ability to think outside the box. Kinda like continually saying between 197 and 200.if you say it long enough you think it will make it true even though I've proven it isn't. Average same day weight, 187. Now you've grown tiresome dannyboy, but I'll leave you on a final note......Quarry was more skilled than Beterbiev.

Now go take and blood pressure pill and try not to choke on it!

[IronDanHamza]

Of course you have no idea, because you have no common sense or ability to think outside the box. Kinda like continually saying between 197 and 200.if you say it long enough you think it will make it true even though I've proven it isn't. Average same day weight, 187. Now you've grown tiresome dannyboy, but I'll leave you on a final note......Quarry was more skilled than Beterbiev.

Now go take and blood pressure pill and try not to choke on it!

No, I said 197-203, not 197-200. Just to further clarify I'm referring to his prime/peak years. That was his weight, right? Surely that can be agreed on.

It's just another post of you addressing literally nothing You've said I've lied, I've asked about what and you can't answer.

You make a claim, I ask for evidence of that claim, you provide nothing and refer to "common sense" which is not evidence in any capacity.

At no point in any of these threads have you offered any analysis or breakdowns of any kind. Literally zero. No specific moments in fights, breakdowns as to what's actually happening.

You've made claims about Beterbiev, I've asked you to show me just one single round in his career where that is the case. Nothing.

You're like a Pigeon playing chess. Adorable.

[billeau2]

He could have fought at Super Middle and died the next day due to the fact he'd chopped his arm off to make the weight.

He could have found a magic shrinking potion and fought at Welterweight and given Mayweather his first and only loss.

He could have starred in Black Panther.

It's irrelevant and baseless what could have happened because we don't know and never will.

Yes that is true Dan. But there is some perspective considering what light heavies tend to do. Ill put it like this: One division that seems to define two types of fighters is, those who will jump divisions and those that want to rule their roost. While this is not absolute many light heavies seem to want to try for that proverbial "Gold Ring."

[IronDanHamza]

Yes that is true Dan. But there is some perspective considering what light heavies tend to do. Ill put it like this: One division that seems to define two types of fighters is, those who will jump divisions and those that want to rule their roost. While this is not absolute many light heavies seem to want to try for that proverbial "Gold Ring."

I think it's just quite the jump, in the modern age.

There's a reason we've barely seen it.

[JAB5239]

No, I said 197-203, not 197-200. Just to further clarify I'm referring to his prime/peak years. That was his weight, right? Surely that can be agreed on.

It's just another post of you addressing literally nothing You've said I've lied, I've asked about what and you can't answer.

You make a claim, I ask for evidence of that claim, you provide nothing and refer to "common sense" which is not evidence in any capacity.

At no point in any of these threads have you offered any analysis or breakdowns of any kind. Literally zero. No specific moments in fights, breakdowns as to what's actually happening.

You've made claims about Beterbiev, I've asked you to show me just one single round in his career where that is the case. Nothing.

You're like a Pigeon playing chess. Adorable.

Whatever you say dannyboy.

[billeau2]

I think it's just quite the jump, in the modern age.

There's a reason we've barely seen it.

yup, heavies are bigger, stands to reason.