Quarry v Beterbiev?

[Anomalocaris]

Close fight that could have gone either way. Bivol first half, Beterbiev the second half.

I had it for Bivol but it was very close.

Either way both men enhanced their already stellar reputations.

[JAB5239]

I had it for Bivol but it was very close.

Either way both men enhanced their already stellar reputations.

Agreed.

[Bronson66]

- - Beter a natural 200lb Olympic Hvy. Quarry was a prime 190lber who took his 1st loss against a past it Eddie Machen who was 1-4-2 in his last 6 bouts.

Boxrec rules...Simples.

Quarry was never as disciplined physically. Certainly Quarry has a chance, but with 9 losses and 4 draws in a career, Beter the big betting fav...

Of those 9 losses.2 were to Ali.2 to Frazier.1 to Ellis,I to Machen ,when Quarry was still maturing,1 to Chuvalo in an anomaly when he missed the count,1 to Norton when he was over the hill and 1 to Cranmer when he was totally finished.CONTEXT!
Those Machen losses were to
Patterson no2
Terrell no3
Mildenberger no4
Ramos no 10

[IronDanHamza]

No.The question is who beats who? Quarry or Beterbiev?

Beterbiev is unbeaten,but apart from Bivol who has he beat?

Quarry has 9 losses on his record,but he fought in a golden age of heavyweights.

Losses to Ali x2,Frazier x2,Ellis,Chuvalo,Machen when he was still maturing,Norton,when past his best and Cranmer when he was totally washed up.
Wins against Patterson,Foster,Lyle,Spencer,Shavers,Mathis,Foste r, and lesser lights,Zanon ,London ,and Bodell,give him superiority in quality opponents.
Beterbiev is 5'1l 1/2" 73 in reach.
Quarry 6 ft 72 " reach.with on average about 12lbs in weight between them, probably less as Beterbiev is probably over 180lbs on fight night.
Some on here would call that weight disparity irrelevant.

Well it's an obvious answer to an obvious question if you are asking who wins between a Light Heavyweight and a Heavyweight.

Who has Beterbiev beat? He's quite literally cleaned out the division.

[Anomalocaris]

Well it's an obvious answer to an obvious question if you are asking who wins between a Light Heavyweight and a Heavyweight.

Who has Beterbiev beat? He's quite literally cleaned out the division.

Is it an obvious question though?

You could argue that today's light heavies (with modern weigh in rules) are just as big as all the truly great heavies pre-Liston.

Marciano for exanple I would say was no bigger than the two B's are.

[IronDanHamza]

Is it an obvious question though?

You could argue that today's light heavies (with modern weigh in rules) are just as big as all the truly great heavies pre-Liston.

Marciano for exanple I would say was no bigger than the two B's are.

Beterbiev weighs in at 175 so I don't give him any kind of chance vs someone who weighs in as a Heavweight and is capable until I were to see him do it in the ring vs other Heavyweights.

[Anomalocaris]

Beterbiev weighs in at 175 so I don't give him any kind of chance vs someone who weighs in as a Heavweight and is capable until I were to see him do it in the ring vs other Heavyweights.

Conn gave Louis fits and I would pick Beterbiev over Billy actually.

[IronDanHamza]

Conn gave Louis fits and I would pick Beterbiev over Billy actually.

Conn still got knocked out twice by Louis despite his success in the first fight.

Until I were to see Beterbiev have success I'll say at Crusierweight by today's standard since Quarry was around the 200lb mark I've got no reason to pick Beterbeiv to win that fight.

If Beterbeiv were to move up to 200 lbs and dominate or even win vs some top contenders then the debate could be had but until then there isn't.

[billeau2]

Apropos of some rather vehement discussion about their respective skills,I thought it might be interesting to match them in their primes.
I do stress that the winner would not be not necessarily be the more skilled,its just H2H.

My pick is Quarry by decision, in a very entertaining fight

woow! Have to think about this one... It is a really good contrast... Have to teach a class, will be back to wager an opinion. This thread should be fun.

[Biledriver]

Apropos of some rather vehement discussion about their respective skills,I thought it might be interesting to match them in their primes.
I do stress that the winner would not be not necessarily be the more skilled,its just H2H.

My pick is Quarry by decision, in a very entertaining fight

Quarry. He is so underrated.