Does anyone still think the old time heavyweights were too small to be competitive in the modern era?

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  • Mr Mitts
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    #71
    Roid fight! Roid fight! Read all about it! Two admitted roiders of our own going no-holds-barred with zombie passion!

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    • JAB5239
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      #72
      Originally posted by Mr Mitts
      Roid fight! Roid fight! Read all about it! Two admitted roiders of our own going no-holds-barred with zombie passion!
      ??????

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      • JAB5239
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        #73
        Originally posted by Willie Pep 229

        Fear that links to other forums would result in indirect posting on this forum and violate copyright laws, and the privacy of the individual third party poster.

        It is why they censor not just the name but direct links to other forums as well.

        I THINK!

        Bat could tell us better.
        I hear what you're saying, but I don't believe Bat knows any better than us. Unfortunately mods are are slave to the system. I've been thru this.....as good or as unbiased amount is, they really have no power. It's a shame because there have been and are now people that want to make this board what most of us believe it should be.

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        • Asmodeus
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          #74
          Originally posted by Biledriver

          Things have been declining here for awhile, well before the AI overlords started banning anything that moved.
          Why are old school posters getting pemrbanned? what kind of reasons i mean? like old left hook? and that bum loser rockin rob?



          Originally posted by Biledriver
          Sports forums have been steadily dying since the late 2010s. Internet users have moved on from forums, just as they moved on from chat rooms in the 2000s. Nothing lasts forever on the interwebs and the worm always turns. When I came to Boxing Scene in 2006, there were probably half a dozen or more active boxing forums. What are there now? Maybe two? Does Ea stside Boxing still get traffic? I haven't been there in years, so I have no clue.

          I forgot about es boxing, and can't even remember the names of the others either.
          crazy to see this place the way it is. even the horrible way it looks..

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          • Asmodeus
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            #75
            Originally posted by Mr Mitts

            There was a great purge by the new administration. Many outstanding members were banished because they were not Sunday school teachers. You even have to call a former middleweight champion Richard Tiger around this joint these days.
            new management?
            and who the **** is richard tiger?

            edit: i get it now D I C K

            the one who was massacred by bob foster right?
            Last edited by Asmodeus; 12-24-2024, 02:00 AM.

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            • Bronson66
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              #76
              Originally posted by them_apples


              you sound like me now

              so frame and natural size matter?

              I thought it was height and weight only???

              this is pointless if you adopt my stance.

              of course fury is built like a milk bag. Hes heavy and thin framed. Not strong at all for his weight.

              you realize this now?

              now look at marciano hes the opposite of that

              God forbid that I should sound like you on this subject.
              My stance has always been a man 200lbs+ and 6ft+is big enough for anyone IF he is good enough.
              185lbs, 5 ft 10 slow footed, short armed, Marciano does NOT qualify
              I've been watching boxing for 68years, practised it for nearly 20,bought my 1st fight films in the mid 60's ,and have about200 books on the subject,you aren't teaching me anything.

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              • IronDanHamza
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                #77
                Originally posted by Bronson66


                God forbid that I should sound like you on this subject.
                My stance has always been a man 200lbs+ and 6ft+is big enough for anyone IF he is good enough.
                185lbs, 5 ft 10 slow footed, short armed, Marciano does NOT qualify
                I've been watching boxing for 68years, practised it for nearly 20,bought my 1st fight films in the mid 60's ,and have about200 books on the subject,you aren't teaching me anything.
                Baffling mate, honestly.

                Some how a 6 ft 3, 225 lb man doing something is evidence of a 5’10, 185 lb man doing it

                The idiocy never ends, that poster in particular.

                If anything, Usyk has provided evidence that like you said, and I agree with, the ideal weight for an elite HW is 220 or so lbs.

                There are bigger guys I do rate, Lennox Lewis, Rid**** Bowe, Wlad Klitschko, I suppose Tyson Fury in his prime, all around 240 or so lbs. But I wouldn’t put any of those in my top 5 and only Lewis gets in my Top 10.

                I would pick Muhammad Ali on his best day to beat anyone, he’s 6 ft 3, 220 lbs.



                Last edited by IronDanHamza; 12-24-2024, 08:06 AM.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Bronson66
                  My stance has always been a man 200lbs+ and 6ft+is big enough for anyone IF he is good enough.
                  185lbs, 5 ft 10 slow footed, short armed, Marciano does NOT qualify
                  We really don’t disagree, then. 6ft and 200 lbs should be big enough with the important caveat: as long as you’re good enough.

                  I think Marciano was overrated and didn’t have him in mind.

                  But the fact remains that we have had posters here who automatically dismiss the greats of old because they say they were too small and didn’t have modern weight training and PEDs to make them super muscular and puffed up. As if that equates to athleticism or boxing skill.
                  Last edited by ShoulderRoll; 12-24-2024, 09:38 AM.

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                    #79
                    Ignored for being POSes:
                    BKM, max baer, Stebs, clmags12, Anthony342, STREET CLEANER, 4truth, The D3vil, Donnie Herrera, QueensburyRules, Teddy A., moneytheman, Dr. Z, Kid Cauliflower,
                    IronDanHamza, IceTrayDaGang, Mr Mitts

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                    • them_apples
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza

                      No the reason is so it's fair.

                      An elite 147 fighter can't beat an elite 175 fighter. So and on and so forth. The weight disparity is too large.

                      You honestly need that explaining to you?
                      Thats not actually the reason. They started adding belts because it made them money.

                      middleweights used to fight heavyweights all the time.

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