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  • #11
    Originally posted by Bronson66

    So Marciano took an unprofessional liberty and hit Ali with a full powered body shot,and Ali took a knee.What's your point?
    - - Body shots were legal in the Computer Tourney as anyone who follows boxing knows...yer welcome...again...and again ad infinitum...
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    • #12
      I also heard (but not confirmed) that Marciano first claimed he didn't do it, but they found the victim's wallet under his mattress. LOL

      He then tried to talk his way out of it by claiming the guy was a h omosexual and had grabbed him.

      That didn't explain the wallet.

      He missed Operation Market-Garden (I believe the Court Marshall's dates suggest that's the operation he missed.)
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      • #13
        Originally posted by them_apples View Post

        while I am a huge Marciano fan I acknowledge his image of being a pleasant hard working family man is purely made up by the media and even his relatives.

        Marciano was a thug in his youth, he found himself taking up boxing as a pro age 24 because he failed at every other job he tried. If you couldnâÂÂt keep a steady job at 24 and could only resort to fighting what does that tell you about him? One day he came home and tried to hide the fact that he had seriously hurt someone at the ice rink one day. A large kid much bigger than he and his friends had picked a fight with them and rocky managed to knock the kid unconscious to the point he was twitching. It was then and there Marciano said he knew he had to be careful when hauling off and slugging someone. His entire boxing career sort of devulged into finding ways to get close to you and land that perfect shot. He did this in many ways like baiting - feigning clumsiness - non stop pressure and crouching very low. You couldnâÂÂt block punches because he would punch your arms. So many would simply backpedal or run.

        the other thing is while he had a record of something like 9 wins and 4 losses - without any skill and training at all he knocked the majority of his opponentâÂÂs out cold even while weighing 160 lbs. power was on the menu from a very young age.

        in retirement Marciano went a bit crazy since he had dedicated 10+ years of his life to spartan living and sacrifice. What this does to your mind and body we can only speculate - but the legionaires after serving their term were entitled to state run brothels on their return to occupy the veterans and keep them from destroying the entire city, which they did sometimes during tribunes. Marciano basically ate and f.*cked himself to death in retirement - he was noted to have broken a pay phone off the wall with a punch for stealing a quarter off of him. Temperamental and restless - not always the most fun guy to hang out with.

        the reason I put Marciano on a pedestal among heavies is because its well documented how dedicated and hard the man trained. There is actually no comparison between he and other heavies. HeâÂÂs simply in better condition than all of them. He can outlast them and recover instantly from even the hardest blows. He can punch extremely hard both naturally but also from hard work in the gym that developed his power. When someone goes the distance with him or manages to go a few rounds itâÂÂs because he is also a very short limbed fighter who has to get very close to you to land. His reach is 68 compared to Tysons 72 yet they are the same height.

        however the men who did this were very slick and capable of doing this. There are many heavyweights who are not. I believe Marciano would have hurt or knocked the majority of heavyweights out that would try to **** with him or coast on the ropes.

        Marciano could sense fatigue and he would hit the gas the second he noticed a fighter trying to catch his breath. This alone would defeat a lot of fighters. You can see in many bouts that appear competitive and they just take a nose dive for no apparent reason - this is because they are exhausted from trying to avoid being Koed. They feel a shot on the arm and it numbs them and they think damn I better not get caught by this guy and the whole plan turns into survive and avoid.
        The red above can be observed several times on Rocky film. It makes perfect sense he would behave this way. In fact I believe it is normal boxing behavior since you see most guys step it up when the opponent seems tired or hurt. Duran gave the ailing no rest and went straight after them, visibly hurrying, even running, to catch up with his injured quarry. Marciano had the same attitude about getting the job over with and then going out for a big dinner and celebration. The faster the better.
        Last edited by Mr Mitts; 12-11-2024, 02:47 AM.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post

          I also heard (but not confirmed) that Marciano first claimed he didn't do it, but they found the victim's wallet under his mattress. LOL

          He then tried to talk his way out of it by claiming the guy was a h omo***ual and had grabbed him.

          That didn't explain the wallet.

          He missed Operation Market-Garden (I believe the Court Marshall's dates suggest that's the operation he missed.)
          Hey, man, that wallet was obviously the work of the tooth fairy and Marciano's prayers to her.



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          • #15
            Originally posted by Bronson66

            No they were not,no real punches were to be thrown.

            The computer tourney had no fights at all,just information fed into a machine. The Marciano ,V Ali fake fight was a separate attraction, added afterwards with several different endings scripted,depending in which country it was to be shown.
            With every new post you plummet down further to a new low.
            I have Dundee's 2 books 5 Ali ones , 3 Marciano ones and 2 Pacheco ones ,do us a favour do some research, get informed on the subjects you stick your ignorant nose into , you imbecile.
            - - Just because U can't throw no real punches don't mean Ali and Rocky, who trained to drop some 40lb off his bodyweight weren't allowed body punches.

            Hence when Ali knocked Rocky toupee off, Rock retaliated with a left hook to the body that stopped all the action until Ali could recover.

            U ain't yet recovered from being a French Fried Brit expatriate.

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            • #16
              This is from ChatGPT.

              (Warning: I have run into misinformation before.)

              During the filming of the computer-simulated fight between Muhammad Ali and Rocky Marciano in 1969, there was an incident . . . Ali reportedly joked around during the production, and one account mentions that during one of their sparring sessions, Ali accidentally knocked off Marciano’s toupee. Marciano, who was known to be sensitive about his baldness, became upset and retaliated by hitting Ali harder than expected in the stomach.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

                - - Just because U can't throw no real punches don't mean Ali and Rocky, who trained to drop some 40lb off his bodyweight weren't allowed body punches.

                Hence when Ali knocked Rocky toupee off, Rock retaliated with a left hook to the body that stopped all the action until Ali could recover.

                U ain't yet recovered from being a French Fried Brit expatriate.
                https://www.theguardian.com/sport/bl...o-muhammad-ali

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                • #18
                  - - What, U join the alternative lifestyle link forum?

                  Blessed wif links as much as U want...whoopee!!!

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

                    - - What, U join the alternative lifestyle link forum?

                    Blessed wif links as much as U want...whoopee!!!
                    Lmao... after 13 years out of the ring, if real punches were thrown Ali would have taken Rocky's head off. You're reaching to try and make Ali look bad. It's not working.
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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

                      - - Just because U can't throw no real punches don't mean Ali and Rocky, who trained to drop some 40lb off his bodyweight weren't allowed body punches.

                      Hence when Ali knocked Rocky toupee off, Rock retaliated with a left hook to the body that stopped all the action until Ali could recover.

                      U ain't yet recovered from being a French Fried Brit expatriate.
                      Unlike you, I did actually throw real punches in the ring,you are just a trolling messer.

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