Is Aaron Pryor overrated?

[JAB5239]

Is Pryor overrated? His best win is over Arguello who was nearing the end of his career and was a former featherweight. Pryor also has an asterisk next to his name for having the dubious cheater Panama Lewis in his corner. Many ( myself included) believe Pryor cheated against Arguello.

his competition is rather weak overall. He had the opportunity to fight Sugar Ray Leonard but ducked a career high payday.

can Arguments be made to rate Chavez, Barney Ross, Locche, Benitez, Cervantes above Pryor, any or all of them?

How would fights head to head against any of these men look?

[Willie Pep 229]

Big Arguello fan here, so I "hate" Pryor. But I don't understand why one poster placed him on the 'least deserving list' in your earlier thread.

I think Pryor earned his place in the HOF.

I always argue that the HOFame is more than resume, e.g. Mancini, but anyway I think his resume is good enough IMHO.

[JAB5239]

Big Arguello fan here, so I "hate" Pryor. But I don't understand why one poster placed him on the 'least deserving list' in your earlier thread.

I think Pryor earned his place in the HOF.

I always argue that the HOFame is more than resume, e.g. Mancini, but anyway I think his resume is good enough IMHO.

I think he belongs in the HOF. If the Arguello fights never happened or the first one was turned to a NC for cheating I would probably feel differently. Without Arguello his resume is pretty weak outside of a shopworn Antonio Cervantes.

[QueensburyRules]

Is Pryor overrated? His best win is over Arguello who was nearing the end of his career and was a former featherweight. Pryor also has an asterisk next to his name for having the dubious cheater Panama Lewis in his corner. Many ( myself included) believe Pryor cheated against Arguello.

his competition is rather weak overall. He had the opportunity to fight Sugar Ray Leonard but ducked a career high payday.

can Arguments be made to rate Chavez, Barney Ross, Locche, Benitez, Cervantes above Pryor, any or all of them?

How would fights head to head against any of these men look?

- - Since U dummyness provide no rating, NO U No know of what U barf about.

[billeau2]

Is Pryor overrated? His best win is over Arguello who was nearing the end of his career and was a former featherweight. Pryor also has an asterisk next to his name for having the dubious cheater Panama Lewis in his corner. Many ( myself included) believe Pryor cheated against Arguello.

his competition is rather weak overall. He had the opportunity to fight Sugar Ray Leonard but ducked a career high payday.

can Arguments be made to rate Chavez, Barney Ross, Locche, Benitez, Cervantes above Pryor, any or all of them?

How would fights head to head against any of these men look?

I would say watching the fights that Arguello did not look diminished. I have no problem rating Pryor where you put him... As a matter of fact I could almost see putting Pryor, Locche, Jones and Ali in a special category of exceptional distinct attributes. Locche had incredible talent that made him able to do a select thing with super human capacity, Ditto for Jones, and Ali. Pryor had incredible reserves. Even for a pressure fighter, his ability to come forward take punishment and deliver back was singular. Just as Locche had a superhuman quality that in itself was greater then someone like Whitaker, despite not being, on the whole a better fighter than Whitaker... Pryor had a singular ability to apply pressure that in itself was greater than the likes of LaMotta, Marciano, while he was, on the whole, not a better fighter. If that makes any sense?

Could he have been greater? Probably. The only other fighter that could apply pressure like the Hawk imo was Armstrong. Armstrong took it to a different level which is why some still think he was the best ever and Ray Robinson second. Both men seemed literally unstoppable. Like thge assassin in Sharkey's Machine!

[Willow The Wisp]

Can Arguments be made to rate Chavez, Barney Ross, Locche, Benitez, Cervantes above Pryor? Yes. I do.

Alfonso Peppermint Frazier and Cervantes were past prime, but very high level, as was Arguello, obviously.
Blackmore, Johnson, Kameda and Sang Hyun Kim were top contenders.
Prior beat Thomas Hearns in the Amateurs leading up to their respective pro careers.
Prior was a great.

[QueensburyRules]

- - 11-0 title record better than SRLeonard. Jumped a weight class to take on legend Cervantes on a long win streak for his WBA title with a conclusive, concussive KO to start off his legend.

Never ducked Leonard when in fact after title defenses he often called Ray out. Ducking charges come from the usual quackers not understanding at some point in his volatile career he came under dis*****g managers which is where the crafty Ray made his offer knowing at that point the fight could never be made.

What he would've done to Ray you might see if you are lucky enough to be inducted into Valhalla, so stop your drooling and study up...

[JAB5239]

- - 11-0 title record better than SRLeonard. Jumped a weight class to take on legend Cervantes on a long win streak for his WBA title with a conclusive, concussive KO to start off his legend.

Never ducked Leonard when in fact after title defenses he often called Ray out. Ducking charges come from the usual quackers not understanding at some point in his volatile career he came under dis*****g managers which is where the crafty Ray made his offer knowing at that point the fight could never be made.

What he would've done to Ray you might see if you are lucky enough to be inducted into Valhalla, so stop your drooling and study up...

Cervantes was at the end of his career, but still a good win for Pryor. As far as a Leonard fight goes, Aaron absolutely ducked him. He called Leonard out, was offered a career high payday and passed on it for less money and less legacy. If that isn't a duck than the term needs to be redefined.

[QueensburyRules]

Cervantes was at the end of his career, but still a good win for Pryor. As far as a Leonard fight goes, Aaron absolutely ducked him. He called Leonard out, was offered a career high payday and passed on it for less money and less legacy. If that isn't a duck than the term needs to be redefined.

- - U quacking don't make U a Duck. Nor do it make U understand managerial contractual disputes that killed that fight.

To many Mickey Finns for U this AM is it again?

[GhostofDempsey]

I always thought he was overrated. Especially after the water bottle controversy in the first Arguello fight. He was voted Fighter of the Year for 1982 based upon that one suspect win. Outside of the Arguello fights his resume leaves a lot to be desired.