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What's the real story behind Floyd Patterson and his subjugation to Sonny Liston

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  • Originally posted by Ivich View Post

    If he was out how did he get up off the canvas?
    Lol, exactly.

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    • Originally posted by Tanakasensei View Post

      Doug Jones beat him. Ali said he was lucky to get the decision.

      Also Cooper koed him if Dundee didn't cheat with smelling salt .
      Ali got a few gifts mostly later in his career but he beat Doug Jones pretty clearly.
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      • Originally posted by Ivich View Post

        If he was out how did he get up off the canvas?
        Cormier was out by Jones head kick and he still stood up. He talked about it later. No recollection of the event

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        • Patterson used to tell a story about the first Johansson fight.

          Knocked down several times Patterson said the only thing he remembered about any of the knock downs was looking into John Wayne's face.

          John Wayne was sitting ringside. You can see Patterson looking at him. I think it is the second KD.

          Patterson got up, trying to figure out in his head, why The Duke had climbed into the ring with him.

          Patterson couldn't focus on, or remember any of what was happening to him, but he kept getting up.

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          • Originally posted by Tanakasensei View Post

            Cormier was out by Jones head kick and he still stood up. He talked about it later. No recollection of the event
            I've no idea what you are talking about and I don't think you do either.

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            • Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

              - - Out on his feet like U...duh...
              Do you actually know what the term means? Knocked out comes from "knocked out of time" ie unable to rise before the count of ten.

              Ali was knocked down for a count of 3 you can see the time keeper counting off the seconds.
              You can also see Ali get up and walk to his corner.

              ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QluJJaU1vA4
              Last edited by Ivich; 10-04-2023, 01:19 PM.

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              • Originally posted by Ivich View Post
                Do you actually know what the term means? Knocked out comes from "knocked out of time" ie unable to rise before the count of ten.

                Ali was knocked down for a count of 3 you can see the time keeper counting off the seconds.
                You can also see Ali get up and walk to his corner.

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QluJJaU1vA4
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                • Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post

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                  Sometimes our beloved Queen needs a reminder

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                  • Originally posted by Ivich View Post
                    Do you actually know what the term means? Knocked out comes from "knocked out of time" ie unable to rise before the count of ten.

                    Ali was knocked down for a count of 3 you can see the time keeper counting off the seconds.
                    You can also see Ali get up and walk to his corner.

                    ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QluJJaU1vA4
                    - - Out on his feet implies he was going to be TKOed by the ref for being out on his feet had the round not ended.

                    Out on his stool implies he was gonna be KOed by Sir'enery as soon as the fight resumed.

                    Torn glove by Angie, illegal smelling salts, extra time bout during the rest with no master BBC footage surviving guarantees Monkey Biz every time.

                    You are literally so literal that you probably still tie your shoes together every AM before your wife relearns you how to tie your shoelaces, mo' monkey biz!!!

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                    • Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

                      - - Out on his feet implies he was going to be TKOed by the ref for being out on his feet had the round not ended.

                      Out on his stool implies he was gonna be KOed by Sir'enery as soon as the fight resumed.

                      Torn glove by Angie, illegal smelling salts, extra time bout during the rest with no master BBC footage surviving guarantees Monkey Biz every time.

                      You are literally so literal that you probably still tie your shoes together every AM before your wife relearns you how to tie your shoelaces, mo' monkey biz!!!
                      Dundee did not tear the glove,some stitching had come loose around the thumb in the previous round.
                      I've seen the complete unabridged BBC version of the fight, with the original TV commentator Harry Carpenter hosting it several times.Cooper got an extra 6 seconds.The master footage has been shown on UK TV about 5 times and survives to this day

                      So.after 66 seconds rest Ali came out and punched the **** out of Cooper,tell us how he did that if he was so badly hurt as you say? Explain how after just an extra 6 seconds rest Ali could do that and also how the referee Tommy Little did not need to rescue Ali?
                      Ali had predicted a 5 th round win ,to fulfil that prediction he coasted the first 4 rds,his manager told his corner to tell him to," stop clowning around",he got too complacent and was floored ,he got up unaided at 3,the bell rang and he walked to his corner.
                      He had been buzzed and was slightly disorientated when he got up,but he knew where he was and what he was doing. He came out all business in the next round and simply overwhelmed Cooper,you don't do that if you have been out on your feet just a minute earlier.
                      Do us all a favour ,stop talking out of your arse!
                      Last edited by Ivich; 10-05-2023, 11:27 AM.

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