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  • #51
    Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post
    - - Poor Billy don’t understand that HBO was offering the bank for Lewie/Vit rematch.

    No $ for any Byrd rematch where Vit recovers from Surgery, so Wlad righted the wrong.

    Sander was angling for $$$$$$$$$$ Roy fight and ended up stripped but made bank vs Vit in fantastic fight.

    Its like you didn’t know what grade you in back then.
    Vits fought a week after Wlad/Bryd, so stop using that weak excuse. Byrds style was all wrong for Vits which I why Wlad fought him just as Sanders was all wrong for Wlad.
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    • #52
      Originally posted by billeau2 View Post

      Ohhh so now its a financial reason. So Lewis "Ducked" because he could not do the math... um hum... So I am beginning to understand why you back certain fighters... Sorry it took me a bit, Im slowin down ya know... The Klits are just SO SMART... They didn't avenge some defeats because it obviously made no financial sense right? I mean Vitali needed the dough and all, the cabbage, so Vlad tole em "take care of sanders my lightwork that knocked my a s s out." And Lewis, Im still confused... is he a coward for ducking Vitali? or bad at math? since obviously he didn't just want to retire... I mean look at ALL the GUYS he fought after ducking Vitalie that second time! Oh wait...

      Your rationalisations are both intruiging as paradoxes because they are NOT rational, and extremely entertaining! You go to such lengths and obviously do not have a clue how ridiculous your assertions are. I guess Sanders had a lot to do with Vitalie taking the place of his brother... BTW speaking of avoiding Southpaws, how does Vlad come out on that account? Did Sanders teach him a lesson?

      Yeah Vlad righted the wrong because Vitalie had surgery, Vlad just let Vitalie take care of his lightwork with Sanders, but lewis ducked because he wanted to retire... You idiot
      It's like he's a professor in "******ity 101".
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      • #53
        Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

        It's like he's a professor in "******ity 101".
        If you are on Queenies nice list you can literally never be wrong! Rationality is just for those that need it humph!
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        • #54
          Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

          Vits fought a week after Wlad/Bryd, so stop using that weak excuse. Byrds style was all wrong for Vits which I why Wlad fought him just as Sanders was all wrong for Wlad.
          The whole notion that Lewis owed anything to Vitalie after that fight is frankly insulting. When the fight is watched people who don't like Lewis often claim he was getting tired... Maybe he was, lets assume so. meanwhile he was hitting Vitalie more frequently during the last two rounds before the fight was stopped. This meant the following: Vitalie had a choice to make during those rounds. He could assume lewis was tiring, and really bring it on so that he had momentum and a chance to KO Lewis, something he attempted and could not do earlier in the fight when he was winning, he could stay away and hope Lewis let him ( I believe he tried some form of this and was hit) or he could ignore the situation and hope for the best.

          Bottom line was, Vitalie would not take the risks he needed to take, to ensure they did not stop the fight. Lewis did take the risks... despite being tired Lewis aggressively attacked Vitalie's cut, forcing the powers that be to stop the fight. Yet lewis is maligned, including by those who interviewed him, Merchant among others... He should have been praised for taking the chance to do what had to be done.
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          • #55
            Originally posted by billeau2 View Post

            The whole notion that Lewis owed anything to Vitalie after that fight is frankly insulting. When the fight is watched people who don't like Lewis often claim he was getting tired... Maybe he was, lets assume so. meanwhile he was hitting Vitalie more frequently during the last two rounds before the fight was stopped. This meant the following: Vitalie had a choice to make during those rounds. He could assume lewis was tiring, and really bring it on so that he had momentum and a chance to KO Lewis, something he attempted and could not do earlier in the fight when he was winning, he could stay away and hope Lewis let him ( I believe he tried some form of this and was hit) or he could ignore the situation and hope for the best.

            Bottom line was, Vitalie would not take the risks he needed to take, to ensure they did not stop the fight. Lewis did take the risks... despite being tired Lewis aggressively attacked Vitalie's cut, forcing the powers that be to stop the fight. Yet lewis is maligned, including by those who interviewed him, Merchant among others... He should have been praised for taking the chance to do what had to be done.
            Top post!

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            • #56
              Originally posted by billeau2 View Post

              If you are on Queenies nice list you can literally never be wrong! Rationality is just for those that need it humph!
              If he agreed with my posts I would be worried!
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              • #57
                Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post
                - - Poor Billy don’t understand that HBO was offering the bank for Lewie/Vit rematch.

                No $ for any Byrd rematch where Vit recovers from Surgery, so Wlad righted the wrong.

                Sander was angling for $$$$$$$$$$ Roy fight and ended up stripped but made bank vs Vit in fantastic fight.

                Its like you didn’t know what grade you in back then.
                You don't know what forum you are on.lol

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

                  Vits fought a week after Wlad/Bryd, so stop using that weak excuse. Byrds style was all wrong for Vits which I why Wlad fought him just as Sanders was all wrong for Wlad.
                  So the Brothers K were tag team champions?

                  Didn't know the fight game had tag team bouts.

                  It's not OK that they switched opponents!
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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post

                    So the Brothers K were tag team champions?

                    Didn't know the fight game had tag team bouts.

                    It's not OK that they switched opponents!
                    I thought the idea was to avenge your own losses?

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Ivich View Post
                      I thought the idea was to avenge your own losses?
                      Me too - I was being cheeky. - Prize fighters shouldn't be saying "wait till my brother gets here, you'll see."

                      Unbecoming of a fighter to let your brother fight your fights.

                      Besides, in some ways it has to be seen as unfair. Beating one isn't enough, they always get two tries at you ?

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