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  • max baer
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    #61
    Originally posted by QueensburyRules

    - - I'd say prime Chisora does better against prime Frazier than the Bugs we saw vs past prime Frazier.
    now i understand you better you are from texas. that is cool did you know there are more tigers and lions in texas zoo's then there are in the whole of africa. texas is 4 times the size of the uk.
    in texas you can carry your gun like a cowboy film. i can only imagine a football match like ours where all the fans have guns and we are all pissed!! Chisora was a great boxer. bugner was too defensive but hard to nail.
    queeny is really JR! love that black gold and sue ellen is getting none.
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      #62
      Originally posted by QueensburyRules

      - - I'd say prime Chisora does better against prime Frazier than the Bugs we saw vs past prime Frazier.
      You can say whatever you would like, but you would still be assuming.

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        #63
        Originally posted by QueensburyRules

        - - I'd say prime Chisora does better against prime Frazier than the Bugs we saw vs past prime Frazier.
        Frazier would eat him up and stop him. Chisora is a fat lard with wide swinging arm punches. He would be gassed from the pace Joe would set and get stopped bad. Different level of oponent.

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          #64
          Cleveland Williams
          Sam Langford
          Zora Folley
          Eddie Machen
          Doug Jones
          Renaldo Snipes
          Jerry Quarry
          George Chuvalo
          Joe Choynski
          Tommy Gibbons
          Ernie Shavers
          Ron Lyle

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            #65
            Originally posted by Willie Pep 229
            Does Ken Norton qualify?

            I think he had a strap once but I never considered him a champion. But he was a serious contender several times.
            I didn't agree with this choice,but then looked up his rankings.Norton was continuously top ten Ring ranked from,1972 until1978,not ranked in1979,but back in the top ten at the end of 1980.It;s unarguable he merits a place here.imo

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              #66
              Originally posted by Dr. Z

              Ok then Peter Jackson as the Aussie and British empire champion. Those who saw him and Jack Jonson said Jackson was the better of the two by long odds ( Famous ref Siler on quote )

              He beat cotenders in the Slavn, Maher, Dooley, D. Smith, Cardiff ( who really beat John L .Sullivan ), Maculiffe , Godfrey, and Lees. Impressivly drawing with Corbett and Goddard. All of whom had an impressive record. IMO, he belongs on any all time heavyweright contenders list. That my short case.


              https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/10543
              To put this agenda driven post into perspective,[the poster has a long well documented hatred of Jack Johnson.]

              The only quote that Jackson was better than Johnson comes from George Siler, its in his book which I own.But it must be stated that Siler died before Johnson won the title in1908 so he never saw Johnson when he was champion .The OP conveniently omits this important detail,though I pointed it out to him some years ago.

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                #67
                Originally posted by JAB5239
                We've done top 10 greatest heavyweights, greatest heavyweight champions etc. Who are the top 10 greatest heavyweight contenders? Guys who never won a title because they were avoided or just couldn't get over the hump in a stacked era.

                I'll start with Harry Wills and Jerry Quarry. Who else can be added? Should Wills and Quarry even be on this list? Post and discuss.
                Langford
                Wills
                Jackson
                Jeannette
                Bivins
                McVey
                Machen
                Loughran
                Johnson
                Norton





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                • QueensburyRules
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by them_apples

                  Frazier would eat him up and stop him. Chisora is a fat lard with wide swinging arm punches. He would be gassed from the pace Joe would set and get stopped bad. Different level of oponent.
                  - - No matter the outcome, Chisora a better, bigger, stronger, contender who loved to fight than Bugs who really didn't like the fight game to Fancy Dan his way through boxing.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by QueensburyRules

                    - - No matter the outcome, Chisora a better, bigger, stronger, contender who loved to fight than Bugs who really didn't like the fight game to Fancy Dan his way through boxing.
                    it makes me think what you say that chisora really was a great boxer and therefore fury deserves even great credit for beating him like he has. fury beat a great boxer in chisora queeny so i agree with you that fury is even greater to beat a great boxer like chisora more then once.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by QueensburyRules

                      - - Those are their All time rankings. Chisora in the current rankings for his lifetime likely held contender status as the longest rated non champ. Beat Danny Williams, Sam Sexton, Malik Scott's first defeat, et al.

                      Even more amazing, he only had 20 ama bouts at best, no pretty boy for your ilk. He was a low slung massive load at 240 with good stamina, punch, chin, and heart and always came to fight. Moreover, he started out as a two bit punk, and ended up with a lot of career respect and maturity beyond what the "common clod" may judge him as.
                      "Flubber" sure liked to pound on him, ya?

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