Top 10 greatest heavyweight contenders

[IronDanHamza]

I agree with all of this, but maybe he should be in because of his resume, as should some of the other, and than let the chips fall where they may. There are surely contenders that would be considered more dangerous, but never proved it against as many good fighters. I'd personally rather put in the contender that earned his keep rather than the one that lived off a reputation. This is just my opinion, I'm open to suggestions.

Skillwise he's better than pretty much all of them.

But not other important factors.

Chin would be an issue at that weight class, not that he had a bad chin but not a great chin, that cost him fights he definitely should have won.

Either way he's in the discussion. He beat Charles before Marciano did, Valdez before Liston did, Bivins before Louis did.

His resume is very good there for a guy who's a LHW and not a HW.

[Dr. Z]

Go back as far as you want and we can make our cases as to why or why not each fighter should make the top 10 all time contenders list.

Ok then Peter Jackson as the Aussie and British empire champion. Those who saw him and Jack Jonson said Jackson was the better of the two by long odds ( Famous ref Siler on quote )

He beat cotenders in the Slavn, Maher, Dooley, D. Smith, Cardiff ( who really beat John L .Sullivan ), Maculiffe , Godfrey, and Lees. Impressivly drawing with Corbett and Goddard. All of whom had an impressive record. IMO, he belongs on any all time heavyweright contenders list. That my short case.


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[QueensburyRules]

- - Derek Chisora been top 10 ranked by Boxrec for most of his career. Even now at age 39, 33-13 record he's still ranked 12th.

Umpteen EBU/Brit/ABC titles, likely a record, but 0-2 in WBC world title fights against Vit and the guy who ducked Vit, the ever disgraceful Blubber.

Derek Chisora

[Slugfester]

- - Derek Chisora been top 10 ranked by Boxrec for most of his career. Even now at age 39, 33-13 record he's still ranked 12th.

Umpteen EBU/Brit/ABC titles, likely a record, but 0-2 in WBC world title fights against Vit and the guy who ducked Vit, the ever disgraceful Blubber.

Derek Chisora

No, thanks.

[JAB5239]

- - Derek Chisora been top 10 ranked by Boxrec for most of his career. Even now at age 39, 33-13 record he's still ranked 12th.

Umpteen EBU/Brit/ABC titles, likely a record, but 0-2 in WBC world title fights against Vit and the guy who ducked Vit, the ever disgraceful Blubber.

Derek Chisora

Boxrec has the absolute worst rankings. All time at heavyweight they have Langford at 102, and Wills at 180. I like Chisora, but has he ever beaten a top contender? I'd say he is eliminated from contention because he does not have enough wins over other rated or top contenders. Chisora is what's know as a trailhorse. He's tough, and he'll give good guys rounds, but he's not good enough.

[QueensburyRules]

Boxrec has the absolute worst rankings. All time at heavyweight they have Langford at 102, and Wills at 180. I like Chisora, but has he ever beaten a top contender? I'd say he is eliminated from contention because he does not have enough wins over other rated or top contenders. Chisora is what's know as a trailhorse. He's tough, and he'll give good guys rounds, but he's not good enough.

- - Those are their All time rankings. Chisora in the current rankings for his lifetime likely held contender status as the longest rated non champ. Beat Danny Williams, Sam Sexton, Malik Scott's first defeat, et al.

Even more amazing, he only had 20 ama bouts at best, no pretty boy for your ilk. He was a low slung massive load at 240 with good stamina, punch, chin, and heart and always came to fight. Moreover, he started out as a two bit punk, and ended up with a lot of career respect and maturity beyond what the "common clod" may judge him as.

[Willie Pep 229]

Boxrec has the absolute worst rankings. All time at heavyweight they have Langford at 102, and Wills at 180. I like Chisora, but has he ever beaten a top contender? I'd say he is eliminated from contention because he does not have enough wins over other rated or top contenders. Chisora is what's know as a trailhorse. He's tough, and he'll give good guys rounds, but he's not good enough.

But should he have wins over top tier fighters?

That would likely have made him a strap holder of some sort.

He's does have a pretty good record losing to top tier fighters (strap holders and future champions.)

Isn't that where a "contender" should be?

[max baer]

chisora would never have beaten joe bugner, bugner fought ali twice and he fought joe frazier. can i get an amen to that?

from wikipedia#
He was ranked among the world's top ten heavyweights in the 1970s, fighting such opponents as Muhammad Ali, Joe Frazier, Ron Lyle, Jimmy Ellis, Manuel Ramos, Chuck Wepner, Earnie Shavers, Henry Cooper, Brian London, Mac Foster, Rudie Lubbers, Eduardo Corletti, Jurgen Blin and George Johnson.

Bugner retired from boxing in 1976, but over the next two decades, he made sporadic comebacks with varying success. He moved to Australia in 1986, adopting the nickname "Aussie Joe", beating fighters such as Greg Page, David Bey, Anders Eklund and James Tillis before retiring again after a TKO loss to Frank Bruno in 1987.


you'd have to be as mad hat as queeny to argue against that

[JAB5239]

- - Those are their All time rankings. Chisora in the current rankings for his lifetime likely held contender status as the longest rated non champ. Beat Danny Williams, Sam Sexton, Malik Scott's first defeat, et al.

Even more amazing, he only had 20 ama bouts at best, no pretty boy for your ilk. He was a low slung massive load at 240 with good stamina, punch, chin, and heart and always came to fight. Moreover, he started out as a two bit punk, and ended up with a lot of career respect and maturity beyond what the "common clod" may judge him as.

What rakings? Neither borec or Ring top 10.

[JAB5239]

But should he have wins over top tier fighters?

That would likely have made him a strap holder of some sort.

He's does have a pretty good record losing to top tier fighters (strap holders and future champions.)

Isn't that where a "contender" should be?

Beating other contenders should be a prerequisite.