Gerb vs Louis according to those who saw the both

[Willie Pep 229]

Don't you have some other people you have not seen fight that you can include too? The film on Langford is lousy. Not to you though. I thought you were a little smarter than that. My mistake. If you were a history teacher, I can see why today's kids learn about zero from their from their so-called teachers. "Hey kids, I have heard that some things I will now regale you with.. Close your books."

I don't know if you are happily retired, but I am happy about it.

I'm the retired school teacher. Ouch!

I don't Jab has ever shared what he does. There was one guy on here that designed prosthetics.

[joseph5620]

Yeah, and I respect Papa Smurf, too. He trained some awfully good fighters. But he also touted Mosley as the the greatest of them and claimed he was in the same class as Sugar Ray Robinson, or the best he'd seen since Sugar, something like that. I heard him say it, that doesn't mean I remember the exact quote. The word of no one is gospel--no Arcel or Papa Smurf gets it right all the time.

This is what is funny to me. There are people in here speaking of Arcel as if he's a God like figure that was never wrong. Boxing trainers often picked the wrong fighters and still do. They also in many situations have a bias based on generations and other factors.

I would love to see if Arcel picked a winner when Clay fought Liston.

[QueensburyRules]

Don't you have some other people you have not seen fight that you can include too? The film on Langford is lousy. Not to you though. I thought you were a little smarter than that. My mistake. If you were a history teacher, I can see why today's kids learn about zero from their from their so-called teachers. "Hey kids, I have heard that some things I will now regale you with.. Close your books."

I don't know if you are happily retired, but I am happy about it.

- - Jabby wishes he were a history teacher instead of being paddled by history teachers.

[JAB5239]

- - Jabby wishes he were a history teacher instead of being paddled by history teachers.

I teach you boxing history nearly everyday.

[QueensburyRules]

I teach you boxing history nearly everyday.

- - Nearly boxing history when you wasn't ever near a nearly man...priceless...

[JAB5239]

- - Nearly boxing history when you wasn't ever near a nearly man...priceless...

Is that English? Do you need me to teach you that as well?

[IronDanHamza]

This is what is funny to me. There are people in here speaking of Arcel as if he's a God like figure that was never wrong. Boxing trainers often picked the wrong fighters and still do. They also in many situations have a bias based on generations and other factors.

I would love to see if Arcel picked a winner when Clay fought Liston.

You’d think he’d definitely pick Liston there.

The idea of Greb even winning a round against Ali is a stretch in all honesty especially that 1965 version.

[Slugfester]

I'm the retired school teacher. Ouch!

I don't Jab has ever shared what he does. There was one guy on here that designed prosthetics.

I always reply to the letter rather than the letter writer.

[shawnkemp804]

Lol anybody who actually thinks any 5'8 160 pound middleweight be it Harry Greb or any other middleweight needs to leave this forum and stop pretending to be boxing fans. It is also hilarious when these people will try to use the old "This boxing "historian" said fighter A could beat fighter B". These people aren't anymore of a expert than anybody else who watches boxing. So because some biased white historian said a 160 pound middleweight could beat a 6'2 1/2 215/220 pound heavyweight then it must be true right?

[shawnkemp804]

Greb and Dempsey are universally regarded as among the greatest fighters ever. I would expect a knowledgeable boxing cognoscenti like Ray Arcel to have high praise for them…and sure enough he does.

Lol um Greb and Dempsey were good for their era which doesn't equate to being good by modern standards. So because Ray Arcel a biased white guy thinks they could beat modern black fighters pretty much means nothing.

Also Greb and Dempsey aren't universally considered great fighters. Only white American males who realize there will never be a white American heavyweight champion keep bringing these guys up. You could add bring Rocky Marciano up as well.