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  • Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

    No, the bet was I can't find 10 fighters with more wins against ring rated opponents, remember? If you say Vits beat more than 6 go ahead and prove it. I'll still provide 10 fighter who beat more top 10 ring rated fighters. So a ban bet it is......GO!!
    HERE ARE HIS WORDS
    "You will struggle to name 10 fighters who beat more ring magazine rated guys at heavyweight. I challenge you to name them! Are you going to run away from that?"
    He claims Vitali has 8 wins against Ring ranked opponents.
    Here are his words.

    ".Vitali is 8-2 vs top ten ring magazine contends"


    Those below have more.
    TYSON 10
    PATTERSON 9
    HOLYFIELD 12
    CHARLES 13
    WALCOTT 10
    BAER 9
    HOLMES 13
    LOUIS 26
    LEWIS 12
    ALI 25

    Total 10​


    Even if Vitali does have 8 wins over top ten contenders,[ and he hasn't named them despite several requests to do so,]
    Those 10 I have named have more!

    Last edited by Ivich; 02-08-2023, 06:30 PM.
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    • Originally posted by Ivich View Post
      HERE ARE HIS WORDS
      "You will struggle to name 10 fighters who beat more ring magazine rated guys at heavyweight. I challenge you to name them! Are you going to run away from that?"
      He claims Vitali has 8 wins against Ring ranked opponents.
      Those below have more.
      TYSON 10
      PATTERSON 9
      HOLYFIELD 12
      CHARLES 13
      WALCOTT 10
      BAER 9
      HOLMES 13
      LOUIS 26
      LEWIS 12
      ALI 25

      Total 10​
      Throw Wlad in just to add a little insult considering he is the Klitschko that has the far better resume and why he'll always rate higher than Vits.

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      • Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

        No, the bet was I can't find 10 fighters with more wins against ring rated opponents, remember? If you say Vits beat more than 6 go ahead and prove it. I'll still provide 10 fighter who beat more top 10 ring rated fighters. So a ban bet it is......GO!!
        Now you can leave this forum / web site forever as we agreed to terms on the ban bet. You say six wins. I more than that. I am right, you are wrong. That was the ban bet. Names and dates provided. It's your honor. I expect to abide by it and leave within 24 hours. I might lift the bet with good behavior, note the key word might.

        The below is nicely summarized in this article

        https://www.boxingscene.com/measured...vitali--148729
        • 04/01/2000 - RTD by 9 Chris Byrd (#10 at Heavyweight)
        • 06/21/2003 - TKO by 6 Lennox Lewis (Champion at Heavyweight )
        • 04/24/2004 - TKO8 Corrie Sanders (#3 at Heavyweight)
        • 12/11/2004 - TKO8 Danny Williams (#9 at Heavyweight)
        • 10/11/2008 - RTD8 Sam Peter (#2 at Heavyweight)
        • 03/21/2009 - TKO9 Juan Carlos Gomez (#9 at Heavyweight)
        • 09/26/2009 - RTD10 Chris Arreola (#6 at Heavyweight)
        • 12/12/2009 - UD12 Kevin Johnson (#10 at Heavyweight)
        • 09/10/2011 - TKO10 Tomasz Adamek (#2 at Heavyweight)

        Bye.









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        • Originally posted by Dr. Z View Post

          Now you can leave this forum / web site forever as we agreed to terms on the ban bet. You say six wins. I more than that. I am right, you are wrong. That was the ban bet. Names and dates provided. It's your honor. I expect to abide by it and leave within 24 hours. I might lift the bet with good behavior, note the key word might.

          The below is nicely summarized in this article

          https://www.boxingscene.com/measured...vitali--148729
          • 04/01/2000 - RTD by 9 Chris Byrd (#10 at Heavyweight)
          • 06/21/2003 - TKO by 6 Lennox Lewis (Champion at Heavyweight )
          • 04/24/2004 - TKO8 Corrie Sanders (#3 at Heavyweight)
          • 12/11/2004 - TKO8 Danny Williams (#9 at Heavyweight)
          • 10/11/2008 - RTD8 Sam Peter (#2 at Heavyweight)
          • 03/21/2009 - TKO9 Juan Carlos Gomez (#9 at Heavyweight)
          • 09/26/2009 - RTD10 Chris Arreola (#6 at Heavyweight)
          • 12/12/2009 - UD12 Kevin Johnson (#10 at Heavyweight)
          • 09/10/2011 - TKO10 Tomasz Adamek (#2 at Heavyweight)

          Bye.









          Here is your original bet in your own words

          "You will struggle to name 10 fighters who beat more ring magazine rated guys at heavyweight. I challenge you to name them! Are you going to run away from that?"​

          THE LIST YOU POSTED .Shows wins over 7 top ten Ring rated fighters,not 8 as you claimed.and we have provided
          13 men who have more wins over to ten Ring contenders
          Ali 25
          Louis 26
          Baer 9
          Holyfield 12
          Charles13
          Schmeling 8
          Sharkey 9
          Holmes 13
          Lewis 12
          Patterson 9
          Frazier 8
          Walcott 10
          Tyson10




          SO YOU LOSE THE BET !!!!!!!

          Goal Posts Moved Again As I Predicted.
          Last edited by Ivich; 02-08-2023, 07:06 PM.

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          • Originally posted by Ivich View Post
            HERE ARE HIS WORDS
            "You will struggle to name 10 fighters who beat more ring magazine rated guys at heavyweight. I challenge you to name them! Are you going to run away from that?"
            He claims Vitali has 8 wins against Ring ranked opponents.
            Here are his words.

            ".Vitali is 8-2 vs top ten ring magazine contends"


            Those below have more.
            TYSON 10
            PATTERSON 9
            HOLYFIELD 12
            CHARLES 13
            WALCOTT 10
            BAER 9
            HOLMES 13
            LOUIS 26
            LEWIS 12
            ALI 25

            Total 10​


            Even if Vitali does have 8 wins over top ten contenders,[ and he hasn't named them despite several requests to do so,]
            Those 10 I have named have more!

            List the names for Walcott ten ring magazine ranked fights beaten that were ranked when he fought them. We will start here.

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            • Originally posted by Ivich View Post

              Here is your original bet in your own words

              "You will struggle to name 10 fighters who beat more ring magazine rated guys at heavyweight. I challenge you to name them! Are you going to run away from that?"​

              Goal Posts Moved Again As I Predicted.
              The bet was this. Vitali has more that six wins over ring magazine ranked opponents. Terms a ban bet.

              Name Vits wins. I see six. Make a bet and I'll give you names and dates on everyone else. You're not scared, are you? I know I'm not. Cash? Ban bet? You name it
              As you can see I named more than six..

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              • Originally posted by Dr. Z View Post

                The bet was this. Vitali has more that six wins over ring magazine ranked opponents. Terms a ban bet.



                As you can see I named more than six..
                This was the bet.
                Your words
                "You will struggle to name 10 fighters who beat more ring magazine rated guys at heavyweight. I challenge you to name them! Are you going to run away from that?" I knew you would do this and I warned him you would!
                You are low life scum,a liar,a cheat and a welcher.
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                • Originally posted by Dr. Z View Post

                  List the names for Walcott ten ring magazine ranked fights beaten that were ranked when he fought them. We will start here.
                  Here you are bet welcher!

                  Walcott's ten names!
                  Baksi1945 no4
                  Murray 1945 no 6
                  Bivins 1946 no 6
                  Oma 1946 no 6
                  Maxim 1947 no10
                  Ray1947 no2
                  Maxim 1947 no 10
                  Agramonte 1950 no 9
                  Charles1951 Champion
                  Charles 1952 no1

                  13 MEN WHO HAVE MORE WINS OVER TOP TEN RING RANKED OPPOPNENTS THAN VITALI
                  WHO HAS JUST 7 . WHICH DO NOT INCLUDE SOLIS!
                  IM GOING TO ENJOY WATCHING YOU TRY AND SQUIRM AND WRIGGLE OUT OF THIS AND WHAT WILL MAKE IT EVEN MORE ENJOYABLE IS YOU YOURSELF PROVIDED THE PROOF THAT VITALI ONLY HAS 7 WINS OVER TOP TEN MEN!

                  CORRECTION NOW 14 MEN WITH MORE WINS OVER TOP TEN RING RANKED MEN THAN VITALI'S 7


                  ADD SONNY LISTON 8
                  Bethea
                  DeJohn
                  Valdes
                  Harris
                  Folley
                  Machen
                  Patterson
                  Patterson
                  Last edited by Ivich; 02-08-2023, 07:35 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by Dr. Z View Post

                    The bet was this. Vitali has more that six wins over ring magazine ranked opponents. Terms a
                    ban bet.



                    As you can see I named more than six..
                    The bet wasn't that, and I can show you the original post stating such. And if Danny Williams was rated 12/11/04, than why is he not in the year end issue? Sounds like you're trying to pull another fast one like you tried with Solis. The bet was o name at least 10 fighters with more ring rated top ten wins than Vits. That has been done ya scrub!! You're a sore loser and a welcher.

                    EDIT: No Kevin Johnson in the year end rankings either. Who did he beat to get this supposed ranking? Was it Devon Vargas who in his previous fight beat a 6-0 fighter? Come on folks....the era stunk!!
                    Last edited by JAB5239; 02-08-2023, 11:42 PM.

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                    • Originally posted by Dr. Z View Post

                      Now you can leave this forum / web site forever as we agreed to terms on the ban bet. You say six wins. I more than that. I am right, you are wrong. That was the ban bet. Names and dates provided. It's your honor. I expect to abide by it and leave within 24 hours. I might lift the bet with good behavior, note the key word might.

                      The below is nicely summarized in this article

                      https://www.boxingscene.com/measured...vitali--148729
                      • 04/01/2000 - RTD by 9 Chris Byrd (#10 at Heavyweight)
                      • 06/21/2003 - TKO by 6 Lennox Lewis (Champion at Heavyweight )
                      • 04/24/2004 - TKO8 Corrie Sanders (#3 at Heavyweight)
                      • 12/11/2004 - TKO8 Danny Williams (#9 at Heavyweight)
                      • 10/11/2008 - RTD8 Sam Peter (#2 at Heavyweight)
                      • 03/21/2009 - TKO9 Juan Carlos Gomez (#9 at Heavyweight)
                      • 09/26/2009 - RTD10 Chris Arreola (#6 at Heavyweight)
                      • 12/12/2009 - UD12 Kevin Johnson (#10 at Heavyweight)
                      • 09/10/2011 - TKO10 Tomasz Adamek (#2 at Heavyweight)

                      Bye.









                      Vitali Klitschko, Champion
                      Chris Byrd
                      John Ruiz
                      Hasim Rahman
                      James Toney
                      Monte Barrett
                      Andrew Golota
                      Fres Oquendo
                      Jameel McCline
                      Corrie Sanders
                      Lamon Brewste

                      This was copied for the year end ratings. Where's Williams?

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