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Vitali Klitschko, the last great heavyweight
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Last edited by JAB5239; 02-09-2023, 03:22 PM.Ivich likes this.
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Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
If you say I believe it. But it just goes to show how bad his comp was. Johnson beat absolutely no one to be ranked in the top 10. Than he disappeared for good shortly after. Much like Williams. Sanders, etc.
No idea why he gained that ranking. Can’t see any logical reason why he would deserve it.
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Originally posted by IronDanHamza View PostSo I have every Ring Magazine issue from 2009 and I have gone back and checked the rankings and Kevin Johnson was in fact ranked #10 in the December issue.
He wasn’t in the November issue so not quite sure why he was in December but the fact is he was ranked #10 when he fought Vitali according to The Ring magazine.
Can provide pictures if needed.
Yes I have Dec 2009 Mayweather is on the cover with arms raised .Johnson is no 10.
Kirk Johnson was ranked no 9 in March 2003 Barrera is on the cover.August 2003 Johnson is unranked cover is multiple fighters with sub heading The Ring UnscramblesThe Heavyweight Mess.
Dec 2003 Johnson is unranked,cover is Mayorga smoking
Feb 2004 Williams unranked . April 2004 . Williams unranked . October 2004 Williams unranked .Hopkins on cover These were the ones readily available to me .
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Originally posted by Ivich View PostKevin Johnson was not ranked in Jan, March, April ,July or Aug 2009 .
Yes I have Dec 2009 Mayweather is on the cover with arms raised .Johnson is no 10.
Kirk Johnson was ranked no 9 in March 2003 Barrera is on the cover.August 2003 Johnson is unranked cover is multiple fighters with sub heading The Ring UnscramblesThe Heavyweight Mess.
Dec 2003 Johnson is unranked,cover is Mayorga smoking
Feb 2004 Williams unranked . April 2004 . Williams unranked . October 2004 Williams unranked .Hopkins on cover These were the ones readily available to me .
Unsure on others on I’ve lost all my old ones. I only have from 2009 onward because that’s when I moved into my current house.
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Originally posted by IronDanHamza View PostSo I have every Ring Magazine issue from 2009 and I have gone back and checked the rankings and Kevin Johnson was in fact ranked #10 in the December issue.
He wasn’t in the November issue so not quite sure why he was in December but the fact is he was ranked #10 when he fought Vitali according to The Ring magazine.
Can provide pictures if needed.
Is it also possible for you (or someone else) to check, if Williams was indeed ranked going into the Vitali fight - as claimed by Dr. Z?
Edit: Ok, I now see, that you only have The Ring from 2009 onwards - so the Williams question must be for "someone else"!
Last edited by Bundana; 02-09-2023, 03:52 PM.
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Originally posted by Bundana View Post
Thanks a lot - great job finding this!
Is it also possible for you (or someone else) to check, if Williams was indeed ranked going into the Vitali fight - as claimed by Dr. Z?
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Originally posted by Ivich View Post
Williams was not ranked in the October 2004 issue Since he did not fight after beating Tyson in July of2004 until he faced Vitali in December of that year.I can't see why he would be ranked in November of that year ?
Measured Against All Time: The Klitschko Brothers Pt. 2: Vitali - Boxing News (boxingscene.com)
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Originally posted by Bundana View Post
Neither can I. But according to Cliff Rold he was #9 when he fought Vitali - deserved or not!
Measured Against All Time: The Klitschko Brothers Pt. 2: Vitali - Boxing News (boxingscene.com)
I believe he writes for The Ring magazine or did.
He’s really good with those rankings, if he’s saying they’re ranked there then chances are they probably are.
He has an account on here I don’t know how to tag people, I believe his name is “Crold”
Would to great for him to clarify.Ivich likes this.
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Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
If Cliff said it it’s probably true.
I believe he writes for The Ring magazine or did.
He’s really good with those rankings, if he’s saying they’re ranked there then chances are they probably are.
He has an account on here I don’t know how to tag people, I believe his name is “Crold”
Would to great for him to clarify.
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