Vitali Klitschko, the last great heavyweight

[Bundana]

C'mon you guys... let's put this bet question to sleep once and for all.

Why can't someone just post the list of 10 men, who all beat at least 9 "reigning" Ring Top-10 heavyweights? That's all it takes to prove, that Z has lost the original bet... nothing more, nothing less! How difficult can it be?

[Dr. Z]

Clut Member? Differnt? You have the literacy skills of a ******ed chimp! lol .
I am banned nowhere.
Keep talking about things of which you are entirely ignorant,it's what you
My list applies to HAVING BEATEN TEN TOP TEN RANKED MEN , as I provided ie,Patterson, Sharkey ,Walcott,etc.
You have been given 14 men who have more top ten wins than Vitali, you refuse to accept them as I knew you would.
Frazier
Patterson
Liston
Ali
Louis
Lewis
Tyson
Walcott
Charles
Schmeling
Sharkey
Holmes
Holyfield
Baer
Those are my names.
Where are yours?

Now fifteen names. Wlad has 10 names!
Pulev
Haye
Povetkin
Thompson
Chagaev
Ibragimov
Chambers
Jennings
McCline
Brewster

One again where is your source? Why don't you provide a link? I'm asking again. I want to check it as I suspect your are wrong! Vitali has fought 10 men who were ranked. Try not to lie and word twist what I said. You have been banned before multiple time as I said and you are a cult member, lair, and wrong about many things.

PS: Wlad has more than 10 names by the way.

[Dr. Z]

C'mon you guys... let's put this bet question to sleep once and for all.

Why can't someone just post the list of 10 men, who all beat at least 9 "reigning" Ring Top-10 heavyweights? That's all it takes to prove, that Z has lost the original bet... nothing more, nothing less! How difficult can it be?

Here what I bet, post 137 in this thread

Okay so let me get this correct you say Vitali only beat six ring magazine fighters? Fine we shall bet. I say make it a lets make it a ban bet because I can make you pay cash, not do I desire you money. You are on. I will name the fights shortly provided the dates and rankings.

Rules I must provide the names or more than six ring magazine opponents beaten by Vitali Klitschko.

And I provide the names.

Jab is the loser.

[Ivich]

Here what I bet, post 137 in this thread



And I provide the names.

Jab is the loser.

First of all you asked him to provide 15 heavyweights with better resumes.
Which he did .
Jim Jeffries
Jack Dempsey
Jack Sharkey
harry Wills
Sam Langford
Max Schmeling
Joe Louis
Ezzard Charles
Joe Walcott
Rocky Marciano
Floyd Patterson
Sonny Liston
Muhammad Ali
Joe Frazier
George Foreman
Ken Norton
Larry Holmes
Mike Tyson
Evander Holyfield
Rid**** Bowe
Lennox Lewis
Wlad Klitschko
Tyson Fury



Your words below.
"Can you name 15 better heavyweights in terms of resume? I don't think you can"


Then you asked him,challenged him ,to name 10 heavyweight with more Ring magazine rated wins.

You've been given 15 and ignored them.

These are your words complete with spelling mistake.
Are you now going to continue to deny making this challenge?

"You will struggle to name 10 fighters who beat more ring magazine rated guys at heavyweight. I challenge you to name them! Are you going to run away from that? Come one hater you have nearly 100 years of history."
Below are the 15.

Schmeling
Sharkey
Liston
Holmes
Lewis
Louis
Ali
Baer
Frazier
Walcott
Charles
Tyson
Holyfield
Wlad
Patterson

Realising you had overreached yourself and were beaten,you then tried to alter things introducing another less demanding stipulation for yourself saying Vitali had more than 6 ranked wins,something Jab never contested at any time and certainly something he never bet you on ,as his posts will conclusively prove!

You adopted your usual weasely tactics but were undone and its very gratifying to see!

[Bundana]

Jesus Christ... why not just answer the original challenge? Which has nothing to do with who had the greater resume, number of wins, or whether a top-10 ranking was deserved or not. Nor has it got anything to do with how big of a weasely, lying idiot you think Z is. All that is completely irrelevant.

What matters, is if Jab can come up with a list of 10 men, who all beat more "reigning" Top-10 HW fighters than Vitali. So let's see him do that!

[JAB5239]

Patterson
Holmes
Wlad
Louis
Ali
Sharkey
Louis
Tyson
Holyfield
Charles

that's 10. There are more than that as has been already pointed out.

[Bundana]

Patterson
Holmes
Wlad
Louis
Ali
Sharkey
Louis
Tyson
Holyfield
Charles

that's 10. There are more than that as has been already pointed out.

Thanks - at long last!

[QueensburyRules]

- - Already posted the Boxrec top 25 at the date Vit fought Briggs showing that he and Wlad had cleaned out the division save a few duckers and noobs in the high 20s. That's the whole of their time together. No other fighters combined ever did so.

Vit won his first title vs vicious puncher Herbie Hide who was giving Big Dummy a beating for the first few rounds before gassing. Vit finished Hide inside 2 rounds.

All Ali did was run like a cat with his tail on fire until Liston injured himself chasing. Ali coulda been DQed for quitting earlier.

Vit then defended against undefeated American, beat him down for another quick KO.

Ali kraps hisself vs Liston in the rematch and again should've been DQed in the most shameless title fight on record..

Vit then beats up and KOs another solid American.

Ali toys with Broke Back Floyd in his third useless fight.

Vit dominates scalded running cat Byrd until his prefight injured arm gave way where his Ama Trainer retires him for surgery.

Ali gets beat up by short notice emergency replacement for Terrell, Chuvalo for who beat up Ali so bad for 15rds he was hospitalized while George went out dancing with his wife.

Then we can get in their second reigns where Vit has no need of a 3rd reign and never gets beat up by the likes of Leon...ouchie...

[Ivich]

- - Already posted the Boxrec top 25 at the date Vit fought Briggs showing that he and Wlad had cleaned out the division save a few duckers and noobs in the high 20s. That's the whole of their time together. No other fighters combined ever did so.

Vit won his first title vs vicious puncher Herbie Hide who was giving Big Dummy a beating for the first few rounds before gassing. Vit finished Hide inside 2 rounds.

All Ali did was run like a cat with his tail on fire until Liston injured himself chasing. Ali coulda been DQed for quitting earlier.

Vit then defended against undefeated American, beat him down for another quick KO.

Ali kraps hisself vs Liston in the rematch and again should've been DQed in the most shameless title fight on record..

Vit then beats up and KOs another solid American.

Ali toys with Broke Back Floyd in his third useless fight.

Vit dominates scalded running cat Byrd until his prefight injured arm gave way where his Ama Trainer retires him for surgery.

Ali gets beat up by short notice emergency replacement for Terrell, Chuvalo for who beat up Ali so bad for 15rds he was hospitalized while George went out dancing with his wife.

Then we can get in their second reigns where Vit has no need of a 3rd reign and never gets beat up by the likes of Leon...ouchie...

I'm sure I speak for everyone when I say how grateful we are for your unparalleled insight..
Here are a few of those that Vitali somehow missed .All top ten ranked when he was.
Tua
Tyson
Barrett
Jefferson
McCline
Haye
Helenius
Ibragimov
Golota
Chagaev
Valuev
Brewster
Virchis
Dimitrenko
Toney
Ruiz
Holyfield
Maskaev
Povetkin
Thompson
Pulev
Boytsov
Lyakovitch
Oquendo
Peter
Fury
Ibeabuchi
Chambers

28 names.
Rather a lot to somehow have missed?
Briggs hadn't been a ranked contender for 4 years! And Vitali's previous opponent Sosnowski was never ranked.
Your attempt to produce a silk purse here has met with dismal failure,but I know you will not be daunted! lol
Name a Ring ranked heavyweight Hide ko'd ? ps not Bent.

Hide won the first 2 rounds against Bowe both by a single point , that's it! No beating.Then he got hammered!

• Judge: Jerry Roth 48-42

  1 9 10	2 9 10	3 10 7	4 10 7	5 10 8

• Judge: Chuck Giampa 48-42

  1 9 10	2 9 10	3 10 7	4 10 7	5 10 8

• Judge: Bill Graham 48-45

  1 9 10	2 9 10	3 10 8	4 10 7	5 10 10

Vitali didn't ever clean out anything ,and he had no intention of trying to!
Vitali quit his trainer can be heard urging him to continue to which he responds it hurts to much.
ps The injury was not pre fight.

Buddy McGirt went into the Whitaker fight with a torn rotator cuff and gutted out the distance.
Larry Holmes went into the Norton fight with a torn left biceps muscle.
Danny Williams dislocated his shoulder against Mark Potter,but continued through the pain to ko Potter
Kevin Finnegan ,Artur Abraham,Sonny Liston and Muhammad Ali are just 4 men who continued to fight on and go the distance with broken jaws.
Vitali was entitled to quit if he wanted to, just don't try and make it anything but what it was, a quit job.
Your act is getting awfully tired now.

[JAB5239]

I'm sure I speak for everyone when I say how grateful we are for your unparalleled insight..
Here are a few of those that Vitali somehow missed .All top ten ranked when he was.
Tua
Tyson
Barrett
Jefferson
McCline
Haye
Helenius
Ibragimov
Golota
Chagaev
Valuev
Brewster
Virchis
Dimitrenko
Toney
Ruiz
Holyfield
Maskaev
Povetkin
Thompson
Pulev
Boytsov
Lyakovitch
Oquendo
Peter
Fury
Ibeabuchi

27 names.
Rather a lot to somehow have missed?
Vitali didn't even clean out anything ,and he had no intention of trying to!

If I'm not mistaken, Wlad fought 17 of those names. Also what Queenie refuses to accept is that boxing is not a tag team sport.