Wilder versus Marciano who wins?

[Legends456]

I see one of two things happening:

Wilder lands a bomb on Marciano coming inside, and it’s a TKO win for Wilder (I think Marciano isn’t slept if he takes a flush Wilder right hand, but I doubt he’d be able to continue)

OR

Marciano sets him up and lands a counter hook before Wilder can land. As we’ve seen from the Fury fights, Wilder doesn’t take hooks well (wobbled by right hook in first Fury fight, dropped by counter right hook to head in second Fury fight, dropped by left hook to the body in second Fury fight, dropped by combination ending with a left hook in third Fury fight, and KO’d by right hook to the head in third Fury fight).

Wilder would have a ridiculous reach advantage, which would negate some of Marciano’s advantages as a more complete fighter.

And in my opinion, Wilder is a better strategist than many give him credit for, and Marciano, in spite of his diminutive stature and reach, had insane (almost Wilder-level) power, at least on his hooks.

It’s a toss-up.

[Ivich]

What the hell are you talking about?

Like 90% of that rant was just nonsense that had nothing to do with what we're talking about here.

A Black president or Oprah doesn't stop Black men from being UNFAIRLY labeled thugs the minute we raise our voice, hence Deontay being labeled a "thug" in spite by all accounts being a good family man, who you don't hear about robbing, shooting, or stealing from anybody.

Every single statistic I posted is a verified fact.
Facts are not nonsense,though they may be inconvenient to those with an agenda!

Your position is that if you are Black you will always get the worst of the deal,that your actions will always be interpreted negatively, and that is just unadulterated BOLLOCKS!

Because Queensbury Fool the resident troll here, called Wilder a thug you think this confirms/emphasises that Blacks are always held to a different standard to Whites?

That's utter rubbish.

COLOUR PREJUDICE IN REVERSE!
You don't have a chip on your shoulder,you have the whole TREE!

[QueensburyRules]

Queen B, you seem to be skeptical of promoters and various shenanigans, why do you give Joshua and his Boy Robin, hearns, a pass? Do you really believe that hearns presented these opportunities regarding Wilder, etc and Wilder just ran from them? I ask because everyone can see what a hustler Eddie is, and Joshua? well lie with the dogs get flies right?

- - It seams like U don't follow boxing close enough to bother a legit response.

Worse thing fast Eddie is guilty of is having a huge cash pile where he overpayed talented no account fighters like Andrade who made so much before Eddie booted him he don't have to fight any decent contenders.

Now the Western Sham of the Corona Virus has tanked Western economies while Russia further tanks them, so of course $$$ is tight at DAZN, but Blubber permanently killed his $150 mil Saudi split that Eddie moved heaven and hell putting together. We ain't never going back to those Halcyon days of yore no more.

[Rosco3387]

- - It seams like U don't follow boxing close enough to bother a legit response.

Worse thing fast Eddie is guilty of is having a huge cash pile where he overpayed talented no account fighters like Andrade who made so much before Eddie booted him he don't have to fight any decent contenders.

Now the Western Sham of the Corona Virus has tanked Western economies while Russia further tanks them, so of course $$$ is tight at DAZN, but Blubber permanently killed his $150 mil Saudi split that Eddie moved heaven and hell putting together. We ain't never going back to those Halcyon days of yore no more.

Just asking you to explain yourself... has nothing to do with "boxing" per se... You give Eddie way too much rope. Eddie is a to bit hustler and you know it. That deal was sketchy at best.

[QueensburyRules]

Just asking you to explain yourself... has nothing to do with "boxing" per se... You give Eddie way too much rope. Eddie is a to bit hustler and you know it. That deal was sketchy at best.

- - Nary a single fighter has stepped up to say Eddie cheated them that I've seen, but several have sued the multibankrupt Warren.

What can I say other than obviously you picked the wrong MTK banned fighter and promoter to champion.

[Rosco3387]

- - Nary a single fighter has stepped up to say Eddie cheated them that I've seen, but several have sued the multibankrupt Warren.

What can I say other than obviously you picked the wrong MTK banned fighter and promoter to champion.

I do not think much of any promoter.

[The D3vil]

Every single statistic I posted is a verified fact.
Facts are not nonsense,though they may be inconvenient to those with an agenda!

Your position is that if you are Black you will always get the worst of the deal,that your actions will always be interpreted negatively, and that is just unadulterated BOLLOCKS!

Because Queensbury Fool the resident troll here, called Wilder a thug you think this confirms/emphasises that Blacks are always held to a different standard to Whites?

That's utter rubbish.

COLOUR PREJUDICE IN REVERSE!
You don't have a chip on your shoulder,you have the whole TREE!

Dummy, the fact that a GOOD family man like Deontay Wilder is called a thug, just like 90% of the other Black fighters on here who mind their own business is PROOF that we get the worst of the deal.

What other group of people have people who aren't out robbing, looting, or shooting people regularly called "thugs" just because they got in an altercation or an argument with somebody?

The word "thug" is rarely even used to described non-Black men, UNLESS they have a LONG criminal history, which Deontay does not

I've seen Shakur Stevenson called a thug on here
I've seen LeBron James called a thug on here.

Now, it's different if it's somebody like Adrien Broner or somebody, who is a clown and a guy who's constantly in trouble.

But there is ZERO reason for guys without a laundry list of criminal acts to be called that word and guess who's the ones who are always called that word WITHOUT a long criminal history?

You bringing all that other nonsense in here means nothing.

Oprah & Barack *****'s success does NOTHING to stop people from falsely labeling us thugs even if we're just minding our own damn business like Deontay was.

Oprah herself was harassed at a clothing store because they didn't realize she was Oprah and just thought she was a random Black woman with no money.

[Ivich]

Dummy, the fact that a GOOD family man like Deontay Wilder is called a thug, just like 90% of the other Black fighters on here who mind their own business is PROOF that we get the worst of the deal.

What other group of people have people who aren't out robbing, looting, or shooting people regularly called "thugs" just because they got in an altercation or an argument with somebody?

The word "thug" is rarely even used to described non-Black men, UNLESS they have a LONG criminal history, which Deontay does not

I've seen Shakur Stevenson called a thug on here
I've seen LeBron James called a thug on here.

Now, it's different if it's somebody like Adrien Broner or somebody, who is a clown and a guy who's constantly in trouble.

But there is ZERO reason for guys without a laundry list of criminal acts to be called that word and guess who's the ones who are always called that word WITHOUT a long criminal history?

You bringing all that other nonsense in here means nothing.

Oprah & Barack *****'s success does NOTHING to stop people from falsely labeling us thugs even if we're just minding our own damn business like Deontay was.

Oprah herself was harassed at a clothing store because they didn't realize she was Oprah and just thought she was a random Black woman with no money.

Yeah you're a victim aren't you.picked on and singled out because of your colour.
No offfence Mate but just FUVK OFF. Vagina Victims like you, whatever colour they are just bore the living **** out of me!
Thug is from the Asian word Thuggee a 14th century band of criminals,and is routinely used in the UK to describe any criminal activity whether it be football hooliganism or mugging it has no colour connotations in my country.

ONE poster on here Queensbury Rules ,a poster of unsurpassing ******ity ,used it wrongly and now you're constructing a White on Black oppression crusade out of it,

PATHETIC


"In the wake of violence and unrest in Baltimore, media commentators as well as politicians - including President Barack ***** - called rioters "thugs" .
What colour is *****?


I'm here for boxing not to read about fake imagined discrimination,go bleed somewhere else.

[QueensburyRules]

ONE poster on here Queensbury Rules ,a poster of unsurpassing ******ity ,used it wrongly and now you're constructing a White on Black oppression crusade out of it,

PATHETIC


"In the wake of violence and unrest in Baltimore, media commentators as well as politicians - including President Barack ***** - called rioters "thugs" .
What colour is *****?


I'm here for boxing not to read about fake imagined discrimination,go bleed somewhere else.

- - Was U any of them pitch rioting thugs in Merry Aulde England?

I'll tell U when I be wrong, but 99.99% I pull U monkey tail ever time U wrong.

Deyonce be thug and been protected by Oscar and then Haymon like Arum used to protect l'l floydy, buying off the charges, witnesses, and hiring lawyers to lubricate the process so they can return to the ring.

I'm here to talk about boxing, and simple fact is blatant Thug Culture is thriving in the US that bleeds over to boxing...yer welcome...

[JAB5239]

- - Was U any of them pitch rioting thugs in Merry Aulde England?

I'll tell U when I be wrong, but 99.99% I pull U monkey tail ever time U wrong.

Deyonce be thug and been protected by Oscar and then Haymon like Arum used to protect l'l floydy, buying off the charges, witnesses, and hiring lawyers to lubricate the process so they can return to the ring.

I'm here to talk about boxing, and simple fact is blatant Thug Culture is thriving in the US that bleeds over to boxing...yer welcome...

I'll ask again....what has Wilder done to be considered. "thug"? You pointed out what others have done wrong supposedly who surround him, but nothing that he's done.