Wilder versus Marciano who wins?

Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • markusmod
    Undisputed Champion
    Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
    • Feb 2021
    • 7397
    • 2,321
    • 567
    • 0

    #21
    I think a fighter like Marciano plays right into Wilder's hands.... or right hand that is.

    Comment

    • Ivich
      Banned
      Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
      • Jun 2013
      • 4377
      • 1,640
      • 2,302
      • 6,015

      #22
      Originally posted by GhostofDempsey

      My statement is not incorrect. Shkor was the tallest opponent Marciano faced, you tried to split hairs insisting others were bigger because they were heavier. I was clearly discussing height advantage as compared to Wilder. You were trying to play gotcha now you’re babbling about some nonsense to “win” another 9th place internet trophy.

      As the video clearly demonstrates, Rocky got up immediately from the Moore knockdown. He immediately began throwing punches as soon as the ref stepped back. He wasn’t running or clinching like an injured fighter who was nearly knocked out. Your incessant need to be right at all costs is weighing heavily on your sense of logic and reason.
      I'll put this in caps for you but first I'll point out that you did
      YOU DID NOT SAY SCHKOR WAS THE TALLEST, YOU SAID HE WAS THE BIGGEST!
      HERE IS YOUR POST.
      "Marciano's biggest opponent was a fighter named Johnny Shkor, who stood around 6'4","

      NOW YOU ARE DOING WHAT YOU ALWAYS DO, CHANGING THE GOALPOSTS AND QUALIYING YOUR ORIGINAL STATEMENT.

      BY NOW IMPLYING YOU MEANT THE TALLEST ALL THE TIME.

      JACKSON WAS HEAVIER THAN SCHKOR AT 254LBS; 33 1/2LBS HEAVIER


      WILSON WAS HEAVIER THAN SCHKOR AT 229 1/2LBS . 9LBS HEAVIER

      SCHKOR WAS 2201/2LBS

      NEITHER YOU ARE I KNOW HOW TALL EITHER OF THEM WERE

      SO THE TALLEST MAN MARCIANO FACED COULD BE ANY ONE OF THAT THREE

      WE HAVE ALREADY ESTABLISHED THAT SCHKOR AT 220 1/2LBS WAS THE LIGHTEST OF THEM!

      HERE IS THE KNOCKDOWN OF MARCIANO.

      Rocky Marciano vs Archie Moore - Sept. 21, 1955 - Round 1 & 2 - YouTube


      MARCIANO MISSES WITH A SWEEPING RIGHT HAND AND MOORE COUNTERS WITH HIS OWN RIGHT.

      MARCIANO IS ON THE FLOOR FOR A COUNT OF 2, ON ARISING ,HE STARTS FOR THE ROPES ,EXPECTING TO GET A STANDING 8 COUNT.

      HE DOES NOT IMMEDIATELY BEGIN THROWING PUNCHES AS YOU
      STATED,WHEN HE ARISES, BECAUSE HE IS HEADING FOR THE ROPES AND THAT COUNT!

      THE REFEREE MISTAKENLY CONTINUES TO COUNT UP TO 4.

      THIS IS CLEARLY AUDIBLE ON THE FILM

      "THE COUNT WAS FOUR!"

      NOW EITHER YOU HAVE BAD EYESIGHT OR YOU ARE A LIAR WHICH IS IT?

      THE SMART THING FOR YOU TO DO NOW WOULD BE TO SAY.

      WELL YES I WAS MISTAKEN.
      BUT YOU WON'T, YOU HAVEN' T GOT IT IN YOU!

      YOUR PATHETIC INABILITY TO ADMIT YOU ARE WRONG SERIOUSLY DETRACTS FROM YOUR CREDIBILITY.

      IT'S VERY ,VERY SAD BUT A RECURRING THEME WITH YOU .

      NB WILDER WAS TALLER THAN HELENIUS BUT HELENIUS WAS OBVIOUSLY BIGGER! SEE HOW IT WORKS?
      Last edited by Ivich; 10-19-2022, 07:25 AM.

      Comment

      • GhostofDempsey
        Banned
        Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
        • Mar 2017
        • 31345
        • 12,917
        • 8,587
        • 493,602

        #23
        Originally posted by Ivich

        I'll put this in caps for you but first I'll point out that you did
        YOU DID NOT SAY SCHKOR WAS THE TALLEST, YOU SAID HE WAS THE BIGGEST!
        HERE IS YOUR POST.
        "Marciano's biggest opponent was a fighter named Johnny Shkor, who stood around 6'4","

        NOW YOU ARE DOING WHAT YOU ALWAYS DO, CHANGING THE GOALPOSTS AND QUALIYING YOUR ORIGINAL STATEMENT.

        BY NOW IMPLYING YOU MEANT THE TALLEST ALL THE TIME.

        JACKSON WAS HEAVIER THAN SCHKOR AT 254LBS; 33 1/2LBS HEAVIER


        WILSON WAS HEAVIER THAN SCHKOR AT 229 1/2LBS . 9LBS HEAVIER

        SCHKOR WAS 2201/2LBS

        NEITHER YOU ARE I KNOW HOW TALL EITHER OF THEM WERE

        SO THE TALLEST MAN MARCIANO FACED COULD BE ANY ONE OF THAT THREE

        WE HAVE ALREADY ESTABLISHED THAT SCHKOR AT 220 1/2LBS WAS THE LIGHTEST OF THEM!

        HERE IS THE KNOCKDOWN OF MARCIANO.

        Rocky Marciano vs Archie Moore - Sept. 21, 1955 - Round 1 & 2 - YouTube


        MARCIANO MISSES WITH A SWEEPING RIGHT HAND AND MOORE COUNTERS WITH HIS OWN RIGHT.

        MARCIANO IS ON THE FLOOR FOR A COUNT OF 2, ON ARISING ,HE STARTS FOR THE ROPES ,EXPECTING TO GET A STANDING 8 COUNT.

        HE DOES NOT IMMEDIATELY BEGIN THROWING PUNCHES AS YOU
        STATED,WHEN HE ARISES, BECAUSE HE IS HEADING FOR THE ROPES AND THAT COUNT!

        THE REFEREE MISTAKENLY CONTINUES TO COUNT UP TO 4.

        THIS IS CLEARLY AUDIBLE ON THE FILM

        "THE COUNT WAS FOUR!"

        NOW EITHER YOU HAVE BAD EYESIGHT OR YOU ARE A LIAR WHICH IS IT?

        THE SMART THING FOR YOU TO DO NOW WOULD BE TO SAY.

        WELL YES I WAS MISTAKEN.
        BUT YOU WON'T, YOU HAVEN' T GOT IT IN YOU!

        YOUR PATHETIC INABILITY TO ADMIT YOU ARE WRONG SERIOUSLY DETRACTS FROM YOUR CREDIBILITY.

        IT'S VERY ,VERY SAD BUT A RECURRING THEME WITH YOU .

        NB WILDER WAS TALLER THAN HELENIUS BUT HELENIUS WAS OBVIOUSLY BIGGER! SEE HOW IT WORKS?
        I'm not reading all of that, so thanks for wasting your time typing it up in all caps! LOL

        You're are an unhinged, irrational curmudgeon. Look how pathetic you are trying to "win" while you were trying so hard to trip me up and prove me wrong, and you failed again. Just like you've failed at each go of it with me and other posters on here. Rocky sprang right up from his knockdown, and Shkor was his tallest opponent. Now you're splitting hairs trying to redefine the term "big" or argue over a flash knockdown. Pathetic little manlet.

        Comment

        • Willow The Wisp
          Undisputed Champion
          Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
          • Feb 2020
          • 4377
          • 2,143
          • 3,128
          • 1,037

          #24
          Youz guys.......

          Comment

          • Ivich
            Banned
            Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
            • Jun 2013
            • 4377
            • 1,640
            • 2,302
            • 6,015

            #25
            Originally posted by GhostofDempsey

            I'm not reading all of that, so thanks for wasting your time typing it up in all caps! LOL

            You're are an unhinged, irrational curmudgeon. Look how pathetic you are trying to "win" while you were trying so hard to trip me up and prove me wrong, and you failed again. Just like you've failed at each go of it with me and other posters on here. Rocky sprang right up from his knockdown, and Shkor was his tallest opponent. Now you're splitting hairs trying to redefine the term "big" or argue over a flash knockdown. Pathetic little manlet.
            Ghost Of Denial!


            Pathetic!

            Comment

            • Ivich
              Banned
              Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
              • Jun 2013
              • 4377
              • 1,640
              • 2,302
              • 6,015

              #26
              Originally posted by Willow The Wisp
              Youz guys.......
              Do me a favour watch the video and make up your own mind.

              Comment

              • GhostofDempsey
                Banned
                Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                • Mar 2017
                • 31345
                • 12,917
                • 8,587
                • 493,602

                #27
                Originally posted by Ivich

                Ghost Of Denial!


                Pathetic!

                Comment

                • The D3vil
                  WBA/WBC/WBO/IBF/Lineal
                  Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
                  • Mar 2016
                  • 6076
                  • 1,522
                  • 1,346
                  • 56,286

                  #28
                  Originally posted by Willie Pep 229

                  No you're wrong about one thing, this ain't no "dream fight" -- ain't no one dreaming about seeing Wilder fight anybody, anymore.
                  That's not true.

                  Dude's fun to watch.

                  I don't know why you guys hate the dude so much, because he's basically a living video game character with insane dimensions and attributes and glaring flaws & weaknesses.

                  You never know what you're gonna get.

                  A Deontay Wilder fight is a rollercoaster.

                  Comment

                  • QueensburyRules
                    Undisputed Champion
                    Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                    • May 2018
                    • 21799
                    • 2,348
                    • 17
                    • 187,708

                    #29
                    Originally posted by The D3vil

                    That's not true.

                    Dude's fun to watch.

                    I don't know why you guys hate the dude so much, because he's basically a living video game character with insane dimensions and attributes and glaring flaws & weaknesses.

                    You never know what you're gonna get.

                    A Deontay Wilder fight is a rollercoaster.
                    - - 1. Haymon fighter

                    2. TBA fighter brought up soft for years.

                    3. Thug(documented)

                    4. Dent in his noggin from Blubber egg weights.

                    Comment

                    • JAB5239
                      Dallas Cowboys
                      Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 27718
                      • 5,034
                      • 4,436
                      • 73,018

                      #30
                      Originally posted by QueensburyRules

                      - - 1. Haymon fighter

                      2. TBA fighter brought up soft for years.

                      3. Thug(documented)

                      4. Dent in his noggin from Blubber egg weights.
                      Why is he a thug? He fights for his daughter, after hw knocked out Helenius he went to his room to console him. That was very classy.

                      He was brought up slow so he could learn because of his lack of amateur experience.

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP