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  • Originally posted by Rosco3387 View Post
    BTW... Solis lost that fight due to an injury... not that it matters lol. His leg broke, last I checked that is not caused by a punch
    - - Another case of not having to have watched the fight.

    Like Ali Vit landed a phantom right that caused a reflex in Solis that kicked out his leg that tore his knee up. Replays clearly show cause and effect. The diverse physiologies in boxing guarantees when perfectly clocked, there are multiple different reactions to a KO blow,

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    • Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

      - - Another case of not having to have watched the fight.

      Like Ali Vit landed a phantom right that caused a reflex in Solis that kicked out his leg that tore his knee up. Replays clearly show cause and effect. The diverse physiologies in boxing guarantees when perfectly clocked, there are multiple different reactions to a KO blow,
      I watched that fight plenty, was a big fan of Solis actually, always love the talent of the Cuban guys... Never saw any phantom punch. Ockham's Razor Queensbury... You have a heavy guy with middle aged knees starting to develop, he puts his weight wrong on a leg and the rest is history. Even if Vitalie caught him, clearly the leg is what stopped him, not the force of the blow. its just a stretch to assume a punch caused the leg to spaz and this momentary spaz caused Solis his? what would you call it? his KO?

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB6Y...nel=MitkoPower

      Show me where a phantom punch caused anything... Solis was winning the round and handling Vitalie prior to a stumble and then a fall.
      Last edited by Rosco3387; 10-20-2022, 04:25 PM.

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      • Originally posted by Rosco3387 View Post

        I watched that fight plenty, was a big fan of Solis actually, always love the talent of the Cuban guys... Never saw any phantom punch. Ockham's Razor Queensbury... You have a heavy guy with middle aged knees starting to develop, he puts his weight wrong on a leg and the rest is history. Even if Vitalie caught him, clearly the leg is what stopped him, not the force of the blow. its just a stretch to assume a punch caused the leg to spaz and this momentary spaz caused Solis his? what would you call it? his KO?
        - - Watch the KO. Prob others like it in history, but weren't recorded on video. And yes, in the moment it was a phantom punch needing slomo to show cause and effect reaction of Solis.

        Maybe Solis was carrying a knee injury, but we don't know that, but what we do know is he never duplicated that reaction again.

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        • Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

          - - Watch the KO. Prob others like it in history, but weren't recorded on video. And yes, in the moment it was a phantom punch needing slomo to show cause and effect reaction of Solis.

          Maybe Solis was carrying a knee injury, but we don't know that, but what we do know is he never duplicated that reaction again.
          Its POSSIBLE, not necessarily PROBABLE.
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          • Originally posted by Rosco3387 View Post
            BTW... Solis lost that fight due to an injury... not that it matters lol. His leg broke, last I checked that is not caused by a punch, unless of course Marciano was fighting Valuev and went low... to the knee cap.
            Devil's advocate, it was a punch that caused the knockdown and in turn caused the injury.
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            • Originally posted by Rosco3387 View Post

              Its POSSIBLE, not necessarily PROBABLE.
              True. He's theorizing, but we can concede that these spasms do occur. Appreciative of the good posting guys.

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              • Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post

                True. He's theorizing, but we can concede that these spasms do occur. Appreciative of the good posting guys.
                A spasm in the leg causing a KO? I don't know, literally and truly.

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                • Originally posted by Rosco3387 View Post

                  A spasm in the leg causing a KO? I don't know, literally and truly.
                  Me neither. BTW, I enjoy your posting here. You're a good one.
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                  • Originally posted by Rosco3387 View Post

                    Its POSSIBLE, not necessarily PROBABLE.
                    - - Vit lands legendary Phantom Ali Anchor Right, 1/00 second later Solis leg kicks out dislocating/tearing kneecap.

                    Jus da fax, jax...

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                    • I thought it strange --> it looks like his left leg does a weird stretch forward and then ****s to the side, as a delayed reaction to the punch, causing him to lose his balance, but in trying to regain his footing he shifts his weight, wrenching out his right knee. Then he had nothing to hold him up.

                      I think he messed himself up trying to maintain his balance.

                      Probably better off letting the ("anchor") punch put him down like it did Liston and later Williams. *

                      * Williams (2nd round) took the same right hand as Liston did, with Ali moving backwards, but reacted to it as you would expect a fighter to take such a punch, a quick/flash KD.
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