is it true that Andrew Golata could of beat Bowe twice?

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  • MoneyKasha
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    is it true that Andrew Golata could of beat Bowe twice?

    is it true that he was beating Bowe up and winning the fights before the low blows, both fights? is this true and i wonder how good he could of been with better discipline?
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    #2
    Originally posted by MoneyKasha
    is it true that he was beating Bowe up and winning the fights before the low blows, both fights? is this true and i wonder how good he could of been with better discipline?
    Bowe was the one who was undisciplined and came in out of shape. Golota was talented, but a mental case. See his fight with Micheal Grant where he was winning easily until getting dropped in the tenth. He got up and inexplicably quit. then there was his meltdown against Tyson. I give him a pass there because his cheekbone was broken. He completely flaked against Lewis as well getting stopped in the first round. Personally I think he lacked heart, which is to bad, because he was a pretty good fighter.

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    • GhostofDempsey
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      #3
      Like Jab said, he was a mental case. He could have won those Bowe fights without the low blows. Wasted talent.

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        #4
        Originally posted by MoneyKasha
        is it true that he was beating Bowe up and winning the fights before the low blows, both fights? is this true and i wonder how good he could of been with better discipline?
        - - Golata is a legend in his own time. Hard to beat that when many champions ain't.

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        • The D3vil
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          Well yeah, if his head was on straight, he could've preceded Wlad & Vitaly and been the 1st Eastern European monster in the division, but guy was a loon, who threw away 2 fights he was winning.

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            yeah Golota was winning but decided that Bowe's nut sack was a speed bag.

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            • kara
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              Golota could have easily won those fights and he was well ahead. Bowe was NEVER the same after those beatings - mentally or physically.

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              • QueensburyRules
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                Originally posted by kara
                Golota could have easily won those fights and he was well ahead. Bowe was NEVER the same after those beatings - mentally or physically.
                - - Big Dummy was hatched NEVER the same.

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                  Both men had mental stability issues. Golota has a very violent past, although I've spoken with him at some length and he impressed me as thoughtful and polite in the context of our conversations. Bowe was very gifted but not extraordinarily cerebral, and both fighters were superb only when their heads were right. Golota was a top Heavyweight and had a very good career, but it goes without saying that Bowe went further with his. All that hot & cold stuff aside, I actually think Golota was the slightly better heavyweight if they are measued in the aggregate of their 4 best fights. That was on display in their two match-ups, the DQ results notwithstanding. Bowe was 28 and smack in the prime of his career when Golota beat up on him the first time, and comming right off his 3rd close fight with Holyfield - a stoppage win. Perhaps after 122 amateur and 39 professional fights the CTE that is in evidence now was already kicked in; but Bowe was pretty well prepared for those fight regardless of whatever else you might have read, and in the middle of his best run. Golota was simply the better guy.
                  No point in robbing the big Pole of full credit for his good work in those two beatings by laying it on Bowe's failings. Golota going south of the belt line took care of that.

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                  • Willie Pep 229
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                    Originally posted by Willow The Wisp
                    Both men had mental stability issues. Golota has a very violent past, although I've spoken with him at some length and he impressed me as thoughtful and polite in the context of our conversations. Bowe was very gifted but not extraordinarily cerebral, and both fighters were superb only when their heads were right. Golota was a top Heavyweight and had a very good career, but it goes without saying that Bowe went further with his. All that hot & cold stuff aside, I actually think Golota was the slightly better heavyweight if they are measued in the aggregate of their 4 best fights. That was on display in their two match-ups, the DQ results notwithstanding. Bowe was 28 and smack in the prime of his career when Golota beat up on him the first time, and comming right off his 3rd close fight with Holyfield - a stoppage win. Perhaps after 122 amateur and 39 professional fights the CTE that is in evidence now was already kicked in; but Bowe was pretty well prepared for those fight regardless of whatever else you might have read, and in the middle of his best run. Golota was simply the better guy.
                    No point in robbing the big Pole of full credit for his good work in those two beatings by laying it on Bowe's failings. Golota going south of the belt line took care of that.
                    I felt that Golota gained from the low blows. Each time Bowe began to get into his zone Golota would mess Bowe's timing and force the fight to restart.

                    I believe in a straight up fight Bowe would have weathered Golota's eary power and would have out boxed him down the line. Probably would have made him quit. (See below my opinion on that.)

                    Not impressed with Golota - one can find all kinds of potential if one wants to, but his results are not merely wanting, but almost non-existent.

                    In short I see him as a cheat - I also believe that his supposed mental breakdowns, whether by multiple low blows or tears, leading to DQs, are just ways to quit. All I see is a quitter.

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