is it true that Andrew Golata could of beat Bowe twice?

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  • kara
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    #11
    Originally posted by Willow The Wisp
    Both men had mental stability issues. Golota has a very violent past, although I've spoken with him at some length and he impressed me as thoughtful and polite in the context of our conversations. Bowe was very gifted but not extraordinarily cerebral, and both fighters were superb only when their heads were right. Golota was a top Heavyweight and had a very good career, but it goes without saying that Bowe went further with his. All that hot & cold stuff aside, I actually think Golota was the slightly better heavyweight if they are measued in the aggregate of their 4 best fights. That was on display in their two match-ups, the DQ results notwithstanding. Bowe was 28 and smack in the prime of his career when Golota beat up on him the first time, and comming right off his 3rd close fight with Holyfield - a stoppage win. Perhaps after 122 amateur and 39 professional fights the CTE that is in evidence now was already kicked in; but Bowe was pretty well prepared for those fight regardless of whatever else you might have read, and in the middle of his best run. Golota was simply the better guy.
    No point in robbing the big Pole of full credit for his good work in those two beatings by laying it on Bowe's failings. Golota going south of the belt line took care of that.
    I'm shocked he didn't go to the can years back when they caught him with an arsenal of weapons and allegedly beat some hooker up

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      #12
      Originally posted by Willie Pep 229

      I felt that Golota gained from the low blows. Each time Bowe began to get into his zone Golota would mess Bowe's timing and force the fight to restart.

      I believe in a straight up fight Bowe would have weathered Golota's eary power and would have out boxed him down the line. Probably would have made him quit. (See below my opinion on that.)

      Not impressed with Golota - one can find all kinds of potential if one wants to, but his results are not merely wanting, but almost non-existent.

      In short I see him as a cheat - I also believe that his supposed mental breakdowns, whether by multiple low blows or tears, leading to DQs, are just ways to quit. All I see is a quitter.
      - - C'mon, Pep, Big Dummy and his vicious manager Rock Newman were as low a combination in boxing as ever existed.

      If Futch hadn't taken him on, and remember not so long after Futch cut ties with him, he was heading down Tony Ayala career criminal assaultive incarceration.

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        #13
        Originally posted by QueensburyRules

        - - C'mon, Pep, Big Dummy and his vicious manager Rock Newman were as low a combination in boxing as ever existed.

        If Futch hadn't taken him on, and remember not so long after Futch cut ties with him, he was heading down Tony Ayala career criminal assaultive incarceration.
        You're an idiot. Bowe was nothing like Ayala, and showed no signs of following in those footsteps.

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          #14
          Originally posted by JAB5239

          You're an idiot. Bowe was nothing like Ayala, and showed no signs of following in those footsteps.
          - - Forcibly kidnapping his wife and daughter ok in JibberJabberWonky world, but not in federal jurisdictions...gotcha!!!

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            #15
            Originally posted by QueensburyRules

            - - Forcibly kidnapping his wife and daughter ok in JibberJabberWonky world, but not in federal jurisdictions...gotcha!!!
            Lord you're ******. Ayala had been shooting heroin and raping women since he was 15. Bowe committed a crime, but it was a misguided attempt to keep his family together. Not even in the same realm, you moron.

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              #16
              Originally posted by JAB5239

              Lord you're ******. Ayala had been shooting heroin and raping women since he was 15. Bowe committed a crime, but it was a misguided attempt to keep his family together. Not even in the same realm, you moron.
              - - Big Dummy has a rap sheet taller than him.

              Yeah, in Jabberwonky world, you just drunkenly kidnap wife and kid.

              "Yer honor, I was growed man trying to keep my family together, so in comparison I be better than that kid heroin rapist Tony, my little brother in crime."

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                #17
                Originally posted by QueensburyRules

                - - Big Dummy has a rap sheet taller than him.

                Yeah, in Jabberwonky world, you just drunkenly kidnap wife and kid.

                "Yer honor, I was growed man trying to keep my family together, so in comparison I be better than that kid heroin rapist Tony, my little brother in crime."
                You're all wound up!!

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by JAB5239

                  You're all wound up!!
                  - - Sorry, palsy, on my worst day you couldn't tie me up for kidnapping. Gonna have to return to soft targets like women and children like Big Dummy did.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by QueensburyRules

                    - - Sorry, palsy, on my worst day you couldn't tie me up for kidnapping. Gonna have to return to soft targets like women and children like Big Dummy did.
                    On your best day you're a drunken, stank breath lard azz. Why would myself or anyone else want to kidnap your busted broke azz, ya whino.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by JAB5239

                      On your best day you're a drunken, stank breath lard azz. Why would myself or anyone else want to kidnap your busted broke azz, ya whino.
                      - - OK, U spent time in Jail wif Big Dummy and luv him.

                      Whatever...

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