Differentiating “style” from “skill”

[billeau2]

Buddy when you slip a jab and cut an angle you can deliver a right cross to the jaw and left hook to the sternum from that angle. Ive literally boxed for 15 years don’t make me laugh trying to educate me. I do it all the time in the gym.

I love how your mouth watered because you think you actually know how to box and aren’t used to running into anyone that actually does. So your half way knowledge to most sounds impressive. I never said it was an advanced combo, I said it was an example of a taught skill.

did you know you can land a left uppercut inside the elbow and hit the sternum from the inside the elbow and outside the elbow? And a fake to the outside of the elbow often makes the oponent pull their elbow back allowing you to drove it into the sternum area.

anymore of this type of arguing and we better start posting videos. I’m not gonna sit here and beat off with you

Lol. Classic war loon. I jokingly said my kids think I'm nuts about something I said and his inability to understand irony show be on a shadow of a doubt the level of his ability to grasp any concept.

Also warloom was PMing me begging me to stop owning his ass lol. So one thing that holds true universally is that when somebody cannot argue a point properly they will inevitably question a person's integrity. Even if it means totally embarrassing themselves and showing their inability to grasp basic social cuing skills like irony and humor.

[billeau2]

I'm not posting videos nor am I naming names of anybody I worked with wth lol. Like I want some internet trolls hitting them up, running my name through the mud, and losing the ability to stay employed =---> are you out of your dang mind? Dude, I could say I was a paid sparring partner Kelly Pavlik and you would still sound off till the end of time.

You never did shit so stop fronting. You lack basic basic knowledge, this is embarrassing.

righhhhht... You are so full of s***. I love it!! You are just hilarious what a poser.

G Uncle war loon Tell us more! About those days when you took on those 20 guys I know you can't reveal their names cuz you'd have to kill us. What a poser and a half

[billeau2]

So let's summarize here

War loon for most of the thread does not understand a basic distinction that was made between skill and style. It's questionable weather he even understands that distinction at this point.

War loon then tells us that he has credibility but cannot share those sources. We're supposed to take it on faith regardless of the fact that even a simple distinction could not be comprehended by this idiot.

And for those who disagree with war loon his favorite approach is the ostrich with the head in the sand technique. Put someone on ignore so they so he does not have to see their posts.

This idiot has to be one of the most amusing of the trolls that have found their way into this section.

More war loon I say! Tell them how Billeau is a nut because you cannot comprehend humor or irony. And justify your snitching to the mods at every opportunity just to get a taste of that ass crack. What a pathetic individual but amusing nevertheless!

[QueensburyRules]

- - No matter the style, it takes skills to successfully implement style alloyed with natural talents.

How many Ali replicas went bust in boxing? Hundreds?

[them_apples]

So let's summarize here

War loon for most of the thread does not understand a basic distinction that was made between skill and style. It's questionable weather he even understands that distinction at this point.

War loon then tells us that he has credibility but cannot share those sources. We're supposed to take it on faith regardless of the fact that even a simple distinction could not be comprehended by this idiot.

And for those who disagree with war loon his favorite approach is the ostrich with the head in the sand technique. Put someone on ignore so they so he does not have to see their posts.

This idiot has to be one of the most amusing of the trolls that have found their way into this section.

More war loon I say! Tell them how Billeau is a nut because you cannot comprehend humor or irony. And justify your snitching to the mods at every opportunity just to get a taste of that ass crack. What a pathetic individual but amusing nevertheless!

Yeah I stopped responding, waste of energy lol. Reposting so he can read

[them_apples]

You don't even know what you're saying though lol. I'm not here to argue, I know what I know and when I see someone that doesn't understand basic terminology like styles and thinks Robinson and Hagler fight in similar fashion, you paint yourself into a small and dark corner.



I know all about slipping jabs, while switching your stance into a side-step, right over the top and whatever else. Try that sparring or in a fight and it'll fail. You're acting like this is something common and usable, it's not. It's an exotic move and nobody does it. Show me an example of someone using it in a fight. Even if you side-stepped and landed the jab, you'll never get the hook to land because they'll either moved out of the way or their guard will naturally block it.

Example of skill: slipping a jab and countering with a right cross and left hook hook to the sternum. You can teach the same skill to anyone regardless of their build. for some it may work better than others.

If you're going into detail about slipping, why not talk about getting your feet in the right position too? The fact that you didn't, tells the reader that it's not there. Context needs to be there when transmitting information, facts. You're fault.

Shoveling food in your mouth is a basic innate movement, this combo is not. It's complicated and time consuming enough to the point it's useless or fails on a high percentage.



nor is 37 even an age where you are way past your prime

I don't care who you are, there has never been a boxer in boxing history that wasn't well past his prime at 37. YDKSAB, facts.



Weird, you're telling me I'm argueing with myself and now telling IronDanHamza that he's argueing with himsel too? Sounds like a YOU problem pal.

You don't even know what past prime or being shot means. Your little list there is redundant, 1 & 3 are the same lol. When you're past your prime you can be in shape, how do you figure that is crazy. When Hopkins was 48 and still winning in 2013, he was in great shape, but he was WELL PAST HIS PRIME and pretty shot.

1. Don't sit there and tell me Hopkins wasn't well past his prime at 48, don't even think about it! He was still in shape and could go 12 easy so let's cancel out your #1 and #3.

2. Floyd took way less damage that his peers, correct. What does that have to do with his reflexes?

4. What does experience have to do with your body deteriotating from age? It doesn't lol, this is a joke man.

5. Being the A-side and picking gloves has a day-to-day effect on your physiology?

6. What does a rematch have to do with physiology?

7. Floyd was 5 months away from turning 38, he was not 36. And it wasn't his best, it's just that Canelo really sucks. This is the same exact illusion Hopkins created during his time. Hopkins was able to beat all those young bucks because the generational talent pool was low. Sure Hopkins is a great fighter, but he's not that great otherwise some old fart back in the 90's would have been beating the likes of Nunn, McCllelan, Julian Jackson, Toney etc.

When you're past your prime and shot your reflexes aren't as sharp, you're mobility is impaired, you take more punches that you should have, lesser opponents look better than they should, etc. All of that is clear with Floyd past 34 year's old. Of course he's a defensive master so it'll be a little harder to see, but Maidana was a poor man's Castillo. Prime Floyd would have danced on his face, facts.

imagine I actually read all this? Lol

[War Room]

imagine I actually read all this? Lol

The agony of defeat...

[them_apples]

The agony of defeat...

You talking to yourself? Lol

Did you have a nice little argument with yourself?

[War Room]

You talking to yourself? Lol

Did you have a nice little argument with yourself?

OK, I'm not going to resort to I know you are but what am I posts. Step your game up, you're disrespecting boxing with this charade.

[them_apples]

OK, I'm not going to resort to I know you are but what am I posts. Step your game up, you're disrespecting boxing with this charade.

I literally meant your posts are arguing with made up ideas.

I see you quote me and respond with something I wasn’t even saying or implying. Sometimes with some completely random fact that may or may not be true very limited poster in regards to arguing.

an example of how you argue:

them_apples: “the jab is the most important punch in boxing, rarely is it used as a knockout blow”

war_room (response): “stop pretending you know boxing, a left hook to the liver is on the right side of the body not the left”

what the **** do I respond to when you correct me on **** I wasn’t even saying or implying.

Anyhow I’m here to talk about boxing not argue for the sake of arguing.