Your Top Three Mythical Matchups

[them_apples]

Not that you asked but . . .

Duran bullies Mayweather; SRR v SRL might end up looking the damn Benitez fight, with neither fighter wanting to move forward; first three rounds are all Tyson's, if Marciano is still there in the fourth Tyson has a big problem and might succumb. That fight I would love to be ringside for.

pretty much see it the exact same way. I think SRR and SRL have some really good exchanges - could potentially turn into a good fight. I think SRR might make it a fight more than Benitez would have, cause Benitez never really had power.

I see Tyson v Rocky the exact same way, I'm actually fascinated about this fight. Mostly because Tysons style vs Rockys likely leads to Rocky touching down early and getting hurt - but the question is can Tyson actually stop Rocky. The other part I like is how does it look when the entire fight is inside, thats something people don't consider. Both of them are short. Everyone imagines Tysons speed catching Rocky but he was doing that against tall guys backing up.

[The Old LefHook]

All great choices, lads. I want to watch all the picks, including my own.

Wasn't Benny Leonard a lightweight? Seems like he might be a good opponent for Mayweather.

[The Old LefHook]

pretty much see it the exact same way. I think SRR and SRL have some really good exchanges - could potentially turn into a good fight. I think SRR might make it a fight more than Benitez would have, cause Benitez never really had power.

I see Tyson v Rocky the exact same way, I'm actually fascinated about this fight. Mostly because Tysons style vs Rockys likely leads to Rocky touching down early and getting hurt - but the question is can Tyson actually stop Rocky. The other part I like is how does it look when the entire fight is inside, thats something people don't consider. Both of them are short. Everyone imagines Tysons speed catching Rocky but he was doing that against tall guys backing up.

I forgot. How many opponents did SRL KO with one punch? To me there is no doubt Robinson punches harder. But Leonard had a fine punch himself, just not as hard as Robby's, I believe. Leonard was faster. His speed edge is about the same as Robinson's power edge. Both fighters have tremendous killer instinct.

[them_apples]

I forgot. How many opponents did SRL KO with one punch? To me there is no doubt Robinson punches harder. But Leonard had a fine punch himself, just not as hard as Robby's, I believe. Leonard was faster. His speed edge is about the same as Robinson's power edge. Both fighters have tremendous killer instinct.

I always think about how this fight would go down, almost needs it's own thread. Leonard does seem to have a speed edge, and Robby may or may not punch harder, but they have different styles that might make it seem that way. Robinson is more of a knockout artist. He created that contemporary slickster style really, but he still had a whole arsenal of inside fighting and knockout set up punches that he frequently used. I see Leonard having his own set ups as well. It would be a great fight with 2 enormous egos going at it. I think one thing Robinson actually has on Leonard - his chin is better, and his jab may be as well.

You make a good point on the KOes though, Robinson does have a lot of evidence of having one punch knockouts. that might be it

[QueensburyRules]

- - I'm thinkin' l'l floydy vs Stinky Wright @154 might liven, nay ****e up this moribund topic.

They almost fought but fer the little feller challenging Wright before fleeing to the mountains when Team Wright showed up in Arum office contract in hand.

[billeau2]

Only three? OK...

1. Spinks versus Tunney
2. Tyson versus Ali
3. Whitaker versus Mayweather at 135

predictions...

1. Tunney wins by late KO in a close fight.
2. Ali on points
3. A draw... Either guy at anytime.

[The Old LefHook]

I always think about how this fight would go down, almost needs it's own thread. Leonard does seem to have a speed edge, and Robby may or may not punch harder, but they have different styles that might make it seem that way. Robinson is more of a knockout artist. He created that contemporary slickster style really, but he still had a whole arsenal of inside fighting and knockout set up punches that he frequently used. I see Leonard having his own set ups as well. It would be a great fight with 2 enormous egos going at it. I think one thing Robinson actually has on Leonard - his chin is better, and his jab may be as well.

You make a good point on the KOes though, Robinson does have a lot of evidence of having one punch knockouts. that might be it

Leonard is often trying to escape at the same moment he punches, whereas most of the time Robinson follows through all the way to his opponent's spine or the back of his head. Most of Leonard's jabs seem to be to the body. Robinson jabs everywhere.

The matchup offers even more--the contrast of a contest between tradition and the newfangled style of the great Clay. Robinson's trainers knew every traditional trick and trap. His medicine bag was stuffed with tradition.

Like Clay, Leonard eschewed much of tradition, choosing to forge a new way to box. Whenever you try to be original in boxing, you end up with a little Willie Pep in you. Clay and Leonard not so much. It seems to me that Mayweather fights closer to Pep than either of those guys.

His follow through may be what makes Robinson slower than Leonard. If Robinson chose to float lightly on his toes and not follow through, he would probably close that speed gap some, and punch faster but with less power.

[them_apples]

Leonard is often trying to escape at the same moment he punches, whereas most of the time Robinson follows through all the way to his opponent's spine or the back of his head. Most of Leonard's jabs seem to be to the body. Robinson jabs everywhere.

The matchup offers even more--the contrast of a contest between tradition and the newfangled style of the great Clay. Robinson's trainers knew every traditional trick and trap. His medicine bag was stuffed with tradition.

Like Clay, Leonard eschewed much of tradition, choosing to forge a new way to box. Whenever you try to be original in boxing, you end up with a little Willie Pep in you. Clay and Leonard not so much. It seems to me that Mayweather fights closer to Pep than either of those guys.

His follow through may be what makes Robinson slower than Leonard. If Robinson chose to float lightly on his toes and not follow through, he would probably close that speed gap some, and punch faster but with less power.

yeah and even that being said, technique and speed overlap a bit, cause the realest form of speed is the time it take to go from point a to point b. Sometimes a straighter, more direct shot can land sooner than a shot coiled but gains a higher velocity down the stretch. If that makes sense. It can be likened to telegraphing on the micro level (tells).

I won’t says who’s using better technique than who, since both have benefits (although I prefer Robinsons) I think from my estimation at least, Robinsons jab is straighter and cleaner with many variations. Still wouldn’t know unless they were in the ring though. Timing/speed/technique all over lap. Someone would eventually get a bead on the other.

[markusmod]

Mayweather Jr. vs. Leonard
Ali vs. Fury
Hagler vs. GGG

[them_apples]

Mayweather Jr. vs. Leonard
Ali vs. Fury
Hagler vs. GGG

I actually dont think Hagler vs GGG would be competitive at all. GGG has no advantages at all in any category imo