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Not sure why I started spelling his name wrong. But Mugabi even in winning a title after didn’t look good and it wasn’t against the same competition. He received permanent damage from Hagler. When you are that broken down and exhausted and get hit like he was getting hit with no defense left - it’s over. He certainly lost a step.
I won’t argue who wins GGG or Mugabi because we don’t have enough to go by. Gggs resume isn’t strong enough for us to know how he would fair. My only point I am making is Mugabi was a different fighter after Hagler beat him, and I noticed you wrote him off fast likely because of how his career ended up.
GGG really hasn’t beat very stiff competiton. Unless you give him a Canelo win. Which imo is a totally different type of fight.
theres actually a dude in my gym who fought GGG. He lost by KO but heres a hint: I live in Canada lolComment
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Actuality IDK - it use to be that most fighters had to give up to 33 1/3 % to their manager. Sometimes they then had to fork over another 10% to a trainer.
Point being I always thought the promoter took his share out of the profits after the fighters were paid their battle money
Dempsey and Marciano were both losing 50% to their managers Jack Kearns and Al Weill.
Kearns had Dempsey tied up for ten years (1916-1925), and some believe it was why Dempsey stopped fighting in 1923 and didn't fight again until after January '26. Kearns only got 50% of Dempsey's fight purses. (Marciano had a worst deal with the gangster Al Weill - see below), so Dempsey went to Hollywood where he got 100% of the money earned.
The Muhammad Ali Law passed by Congress, (steered through by John McCain back in the 1990s ??), disallowed a manager to take more than 33 1/3 % - it also disallowed a promoter to be a fighter's manager, but there were too many loop holes in that regulation, e.g. Don King would act as promoter and his step son would be the guy's manager. Lol Too easy to get around that one.
Things have changed so IDK, but I do know some things from the past. Such as:
Rickard offered Dempsey a % of the Carpentier gate instead of a guarantee. Kearns insisted instead on a flat 300K up front. - after the fight created a 1.6 million gate, Dempsey, had he taken the %, would have pulled in 476K, instead of 300K, thus leaving 176K on the table (in Rickard's pockets).
Rickard made damn sure the newspaper guys knew about it (that's why I know about it) to make Kearns look inept. It was Rickard's first move in stealing Dempsey away from Kearns.
Also Rickard paid Dempsey 105K for the Brennan fight at MSG. Later in life Rickard would claim it was the only fight he ever lost money on. So I think we can conclude Rickard the promoter got none of Dempsey's purse.
I believe Ali only got about 44% of his purses (before taxes) after everyone took their piece, and with Ali it was a long list. Not sure about this one.
Marciano had a lifetime 50-50 split with Al Weill for any of Marciano's income that was boxing related. Stories tell that after retirement Marciano was so angry when he would show up for a speaking engagement. He would tell the sponsor to keep his two thousand dollar check and give him $500 in cash instead. In short Marciano would take $500 less for himself just to stiff Al Weill out of his $1000.
But since the Muhammad Ali Act was passed by Congress I really don't know the law. I am certain a manager can no longer take a 50-50 split; no lifetime contracts allowed; no promoter can manager the fighter he is promoting. The rest of the regulations I am ignorant of.
Of course I could be wrong about all of the above except the Kearns-Rickard story. That one played out in the newspapers. The others were stories.
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I think GGG's competition is better than Mugabi's and he was a big middle. Mugabi really a light middle. I was at the fights one night and a guy sitting in front of me was wearing a stetson.the action got lively and he stood up I shouted to him to sit down,he turned around looked at me and did so.When the next fight was ready to start he was introduced into the ring as," JohnThe Beast Mugabi, Marvin Hagler's next challenger"Comment
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- - Marv wasn't ducked like Golovkin was, the new boogyman.
Like Marv, a lifetime 160, but he offered his titles to l'l floydy @155 or he comes down to challenge him @154. Offered Wart a title challenge @164, but nope, them modern American boys don't wanna get KOed.
Meanwhile, Marv benefits from Leonard, Hearns, and Duran wanting to fight at 160.Comment
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