Henry Armstrong would be disqualified for his style if he fought today

[them_apples]

I always thought Armstrong was among the most overrated of ATGs. I cannot see him rising above #5 AT in his best division. He would try the same technique against Saddler and I wonder if he could make it work. I know it would not work against Pep or Sanchez. Armstrong would lose every round. Nobody is burying their head in Willie's or Sally's chest.

I could see pep giving him problems. Sanchez and Armstrong would be a fight though. I think Armstrong would beat Saddler as well. Which is ironic because foreman beat frazier (frazier emulated armstrong) and foreman emulated sandy saddlers mummy grab the shoulders defense style

[Willie Pep 229]

I could see pep giving him problems. Sanchez and Armstrong would be a fight though. I think Armstrong would beat Saddler as well. Which is ironic because foreman beat frazier (frazier emulated armstrong) and foreman emulated sandy saddlers mummy grab the shoulders defense style

Interesting point regarding the Fraizer-Foreman comparison - Saddler was 5' 11" (I think) if he came in at FW Armstrong would probably be too strong for him - but if Saddler did a Tommy Hearns and filled out to say to150 he would have been hell for Henry.

Pep may have been able to work out a UD against Henry at any weight - but if it was late in Pep's career maybe not. I believe Pep was ring worn by the time he met Saddler.

Pep's greatest moment came in Pep-Saddler II, but I think that was the last great fight Pep had left in him.

[BattlingNelson]

His style is definetely dirty. Lots of elbows and kidneyshots. Furthermore he leads with his head like Andre Ward. Yeah, he'd have a hard time in todays boxing unless he had hometown refs all the time.

[Anthony342]

His style is definetely dirty. Lots of elbows and kidneyshots. Furthermore he leads with his head like Andre Ward. Yeah, he'd have a hard time in todays boxing unless he had hometown refs all the time.

Isn't that pretty much what Holyfield did later in his career though and got away with it?

[Willie Pep 229]

Isn't that pretty much what Holyfield did later in his career though and got away with it?

Yea very much so but I always thought Field a dirty fighter and was one of the few that was glad Iron Mike bit his ear off. Seriously, I was so ***** tried of watching him butt opponents.

I wonder now if I would have been anti-Armstrong.

I like a 'creative' fighter, but butting is right out.

TRIVIA: In the LPR 1853 rules it identifies fouls but makes no reference to how they will be punished except for butting which it mentions separately and calls for immediate DQ. I guess biting and gouching were sufferable events to an extent, but butting could end a fight, unfairly.

[The Old LefHook]

Saddler would be the same size as Marciano if he were 5' 11". He was still tall for a featherweight--5" 8", I believe. That makes him a bigger man than Tommy Burns anyway, who I believe was 5' 7", and about the size of Dwight Braxton.

[ShoulderRoll]

His style is definetely dirty. Lots of elbows and kidneyshots. Furthermore he leads with his head like Andre Ward. Yeah, he'd have a hard time in todays boxing unless he had hometown refs all the time.

Still sulking about that Kessler loss? Accidental headbutts aside that was a master class by Ward.

[QueensburyRules]

Still sulking about that Kessler loss? Accidental headbutts aside that was a master class by Ward.

- -Wart makes Henry look like a choir boy. Only fight Wart had that wasn't a blizzard of fouls was Allan Green tapped on short notice with 3/4 his bowels removed, and Wart couldn't budge him. 41 yr old Glen Johnson KOed Green in his next fight.

[Anthony342]

Saddler would be the same size as Marciano if he were 5' 11". He was still tall for a featherweight--5" 8", I believe. That makes him a bigger man than Tommy Burns anyway, who I believe was 5' 7", and about the size of Dwight Braxton.

Tommy Burns? Is it true his middle name was ****?

[BattlingNelson]

Isn't that pretty much what Holyfield did later in his career though and got away with it?

Good point, but there seem to be a different set of rules for heavies. Almost all successful hw’s had/have signature dirty tricks in their style.