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  • Eff Pandas
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    #31
    Idk about two refs in the ring or a division for every lb in weight, but I'm all for the quality control a league could bring.

    It'd be much better for the sport of boxing to truly have something that represented high level boxing like basically every sport has that represents the highest level of that sport. Right now it's just about who can garner the most attention, sell the most PPV's or who's got a corrupt organisations belt around their waist. There should be clearly established levels to boxing so there is no confusions to the casual boxing fans & sports fans what boxing they should wanna keep track of.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Willie Pep 229
      IMHO a possible immediate fix is have the federal government inject itself into boxing at a foundation level (as it does with bankruptcy laws) establishing a basic level of protection for the fighters but allow the individual States to expand on those regulations as they see fit (without offending the basic protections.)
      For the life of me I'll never understand why some fans immediately go to the government to run or help run a sport. Is there any sport run by the government that suggests it won't be a sh^t show? I mean we already got state government commissions that have made judging boxing one of the biggest ongoing jokes in the sport. Do we really want the government in charge of more things in boxing?

      I think you want & need entrepreneurs who want to remold the sport into something less antiquated to be the creators of a high level boxing league. I mean fml can you imagine how awful a government run NFL or NBA would be?!?!

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      • billeau2
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        #33
        Originally posted by markusmod

        It's called the WBA
        prisoner comes up to despot says, "I'll never talk you btard!" Despot thinks tells henchman " make him watch the WBA championship!" The sound of screaming permeates the room

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        • Willie Pep 229
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          #34
          Originally posted by Eff Pandas

          For the life of me I'll never understand why some fans immediately go to the government to run or help run a sport. Is there any sport run by the government that suggests it won't be a sh^t show? I mean we already got state government commissions that have made judging boxing one of the biggest ongoing jokes in the sport. Do we really want the government in charge of more things in boxing?

          I think you want & need entrepreneurs who want to remold the sport into something less antiquated to be the creators of a high level boxing league. I mean fml can you imagine how awful a government run NFL or NBA would be?!?!

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          That's the knee jerk response I was referring.

          There was nothing wrong with government for 200 years - it made America great - then came along this loser generation and now it's all government's fault.

          Education, infrastructure, change of power, Etc. Every other generation could handle the responsibility of liberty except us.

          We have met the ******ity and it is us!

          Thank you for replying I was a little concerned no one woukd take the bait.

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          • The Old LefHook
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            #35
            There is only one letter's difference between run and ruin.

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            • markusmod
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              #36
              Originally posted by billeau2

              prisoner comes up to despot says, "I'll never talk you btard!" Despot thinks tells henchman " make him watch the WBA championship!" The sound of screaming permeates the room
              Hahahahahaha

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                #37
                Originally posted by Willie Pep 229

                That's the knee jerk response I was referring.

                There was nothing wrong with government for 200 years - it made America great - then came along this loser generation and now it's all government's fault.

                Education, infrastructure, change of power, Etc. Every other generation could handle the responsibility of liberty except us.

                We have met the ******ity and it is us!

                Thank you for replying I was a little concerned no one woukd take the bait.
                Come on now the both of you! Lets think this through!!! (scratches Navel) If a LITTLE Government is great, then it follows A LOT of Government is better... Right?

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                • Eff Pandas
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Willie Pep 229

                  That's the knee jerk response I was referring.

                  There was nothing wrong with government for 200 years - it made America great - then came along this loser generation and now it's all government's fault.

                  Education, infrastructure, change of power, Etc. Every other generation could handle the responsibility of liberty except us.

                  We have met the ******ity and it is us!

                  Thank you for replying I was a little concerned no one woukd take the bait.
                  Great comeback on your bad idea brother.

                  But back to the point when has the government controlled a sport league & done it well?!?!?! As I gave an actual example, unlike you, look at how much of a sh^t show state boxing commissions are. Can you imagine how fooked rankings & other things would be if they ran more of boxing? Can you imagine how much money would be wasted as it virtually always is with government sh^t? How many political job placements would be made as favors instead of putting qualified people in positions? It has sh^t show written all over it.

                  I'm no fan of how government works to be clear, but thats not really relevant to my take on government running sports. That sounds like some communist sh^t & I'm not one of these guys talking commie sh^t all the time lmfao.

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                  • Willie Pep 229
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Eff Pandas

                    Great comeback on your bad idea brother.

                    But back to the point when has the government controlled a sport league & done it well?!?!?! As I gave an actual example, unlike you, look at how much of a sh^t show state boxing commissions are. Can you imagine how fooked rankings & other things would be if they ran more of boxing? Can you imagine how much money would be wasted as it virtually always is with government sh^t? How many political job placements would be made as favors instead of putting qualified people in positions? It has sh^t show written all over it.

                    I'm no fan of how government works to be clear, but thats not really relevant to my take on government running sports. That sounds like some communist sh^t & I'm not one of these guys talking commie sh^t all the time lmfao.
                    Never suggested thst G should run boxing - set matches/rankings/rules ETC. No that would be very bad, almost as bad as the scantioning bodies, promoters, and Casinos.

                    I was suggesting that instead of a league or a union leave things as they are now BUT have G tax the hell out of people like Steve Wynn, Bob Arum, Eddie Hearn and the scantioning bodies and put that money in trust for fighters pensions and medical care.

                    They make so much off the fights and give so little back to the game. Does anyone really need the WBC ro create and brag about a six million dollar championship belt? When that kind of money can be placed in federal bonds and begin to grow a powerful trust fund for fighters.

                    Anyway I am a big advocate of the independent fighter allowed to control his own fate. Read my other posts and you will see that.

                    I don't want G involved at that level, nor do I want a league or union either. Just TAX those who take so much and give it back to the fighters in the form of pensions and medical care. (Of course I am talking about the common pug (not the multi- million dollar fighters) who usually has nothing when it is all done.)

                    But just in case we still can't agree. . . 'Get off my lawn punk!'

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                    • Anthony342
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Willie Pep 229

                      That's the knee jerk response I was referring.

                      There was nothing wrong with government for 200 years - it made America great - then came along this loser generation and now it's all government's fault.

                      Education, infrastructure, change of power, Etc. Every other generation could handle the responsibility of liberty except us.

                      We have met the ******ity and it is us!

                      Thank you for replying I was a little concerned no one woukd take the bait.
                      Well yeah, but I thought America was now great again after President Trump. That's what they kept telling us the past 4 years right?

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