What Heavyweights In Your Mind Defeat A Prime Joe Louis (Past Or Present)?

[Willie Pep 229]

The shown video shows Walcott was robbed. The loud boo after the announcement that Louis won combined with the body language of Louis who looked like the loser and Walcott's comer being visibly upset backs up what we saw on film. Did you watch it, and hear it?

" Sorry Joe ", Louis said to Walcott after the decision was announced.

Finally in the way fights are scored now in the 10 point must system, which gives knock downs scored 10-8 rounds, ( Walcott has two 10-8 rounds ) makes it virtually impossible for Louis to win a close fight for the few ring side spots people who scored him the winner on points! The 10 point system was not used in this fight.

You are a joke.

A few fighters I think would beat Louis that fought before him and several that fought after him beat him.

The 10 point must system did not exist at the time of this fight. There was an alternative point scoring system to denote KDs, created by the judges, but that only came into play pending even round scores. But that was, I believe, only implemented in Championship fights like this one.

[Willie Pep 229]

To take it a touch further . . . Decision fights came about to appease the gamblers, who were a driving force of the game.

First off, bookmakers would take bets based on an agreed upon sport writer decision, later on based on an official (immediate) referee decision, to eventually judges count rounds, finally to judges counting points.

Unfortunately what started as an adjustment for gamblers became an end unto itself. Thus the nature of the game as it is today, counting punches.

This counting punches thing is so prevalent that posters here make ****** remarks, about how if the fight had ended in the 20th round, Johnson would have beaten Willard. But it didn't, the fight was scheduled for 45 rounds, mainly to avoid the need for the decision. It is a totaly irrelevant argument. So it's really a pointless point to make.

Trivia: What was the first fight to see the HW championship change hands on a decision?

What was the next time the HW Championship changed hands via a KO or TKO?

No fair looking it up. Pull it out your ass or let someone else try.

[QueensburyRules]

To take it a touch further . . . Decision fights came about to appease the gamblers, who were a driving force of the game.

First off, bookmakers would take bets based on an agreed upon sport writer decision, later on based on an official (immediate) referee decision, to eventually judges count rounds, finally to judges counting points.

Unfortunately what started as an adjustment for gamblers became an end unto itself. Thus the nature of the game as it is today, counting punches.

This counting punches thing is so prevalent that posters here make ****** remarks, about how if the fight had ended in the 20th round, Johnson would have beaten Willard. But it didn't, the fight was scheduled for 45 rounds, mainly to avoid the need for the decision. It is a totaly irrelevant argument. So it's really a pointless point to make.

Trivia: What was the first fight to see the HW championship change hands on a decision?

What was the next time the HW Championship changed hands via a KO or TKO?

No fair looking it up. Pull it out your ass or let someone else try.

- - Correct about ******** driving boxing development, but horse racing also.

Hence Vegas ultimately took over the big boxing venues until being outbid by the Saudis. Not sure what the return$ are for the Saudis, but they got so much $$$ that it don't matter as they look to perhaps reforming, ie modernizing the country.

[cfang]

Louis was a killer of a fighter. Incredible and his 25 defences would almost certainly have been 35?,40? In terms of fighters before him I can’t see any beating him at all. Johnson was crafty and outstanding in his day but he fought nobody like Louis. Dempsey is very overrated if you look at his record. Post Louis, Rocky would get cut up too badly, Liston maybe although the Ali fight’s definitely taint him. Frazier. You’d have to favour Louis. Ali I think would have been too fast and agile. Foreman maybe too powerful. Holmes is close. Tyson close too but Louis had more resolve. Holy close. Lennox likely beats him as do the k brothers. That’s about it I think.

[Ascended]

Louis was a killer of a fighter. Incredible and his 25 defences would almost certainly have been 35?,40? In terms of fighters before him I can’t see any beating him at all. Johnson was crafty and outstanding in his day but he fought nobody like Louis. Dempsey is very overrated if you look at his record. Post Louis, Rocky would get cut up too badly, Liston maybe although the Ali fight’s definitely taint him. Frazier. You’d have to favour Louis. Ali I think would have been too fast and agile. Foreman maybe too powerful. Holmes is close. Tyson close too but Louis had more resolve. Holy close. Lennox likely beats him as do the k brothers. That’s about it I think.

who did Joe fight as advanced as this guy frazier or Oscar this is a very early match of Frazier and even here is way more advanced than the whole era louis fought in

In what way should anybody favor Louis over frazier? When frazier was way more advanced even here at this very easy stage than the whole era louis fought in

[Ascended]

Louis was a killer of a fighter. Incredible and his 25 defences would almost certainly have been 35?,40? In terms of fighters before him I can’t see any beating him at all. Johnson was crafty and outstanding in his day but he fought nobody like Louis. Dempsey is very overrated if you look at his record. Post Louis, Rocky would get cut up too badly, Liston maybe although the Ali fight’s definitely taint him. Frazier. You’d have to favour Louis. Ali I think would have been too fast and agile. Foreman maybe too powerful. Holmes is close. Tyson was close too but Louis had more resolve. Holy close. Lennox likely beats him as do the k brothers. That’s about it I think.

Was Galento as advanced as frazier or Oscar? He gave Joe trouble and was very sloopy and trash compared to both

This looks trash compared to the matches I posted this looks like novices this can't be the the louis you were talking about

[Ascended]

Louis was a killer of a fighter. Incredible and his 25 defences would almost certainly have been 35?,40? In terms of fighters before him I can’t see any beating him at all. Johnson was crafty and outstanding in his day but he fought nobody like Louis. Dempsey is very overrated if you look at his record. Post Louis, Rocky would get cut up too badly, Liston maybe although the Ali fight’s definitely taint him. Frazier. You’d have to favour Louis. Ali I think would have been too fast and agile. Foreman maybe too powerful. Holmes is close. Tyson close too but Louis had more resolve. Holy close. Lennox likely beats him as do the k brothers. That’s about it I think.

Anybody as advanced as this no name that liston fought who joe fought in his novice like era?

[Ascended]

Louis was a killer of a fighter. Incredible and his 25 defences would almost certainly have been 35?,40? In terms of fighters before him I can’t see any beating him at all. Johnson was crafty and outstanding in his day but he fought nobody like Louis. Dempsey is very overrated if you look at his record. Post Louis, Rocky would get cut up too badly, Liston maybe although the Ali fight’s definitely taint him. Frazier. You’d have to favour Louis. Ali I think would have been too fast and agile. Foreman maybe too powerful. Holmes is close. Tyson was close too but Louis had more resolve. Holy close. Lennox likely beats him as do the k brothers. That’s about it I think.

How about Earnie and this man anybody as advanced as guys as this that Joe fought?

See what thinking got you? exposed crazy idiot

I can put many more guys who were way more advanced than the whole novice-like era Joe fought in and in no way does anybody Joe fought or himself look like they would land even 10 shots vs any of the guys I posted

[Dr. Z]

Anybody as advanced as this no name that liston fought who joe fought in his novice like era?

I think this is one I have not seen! Thanks .

[Ascended]

Louis was a killer of a fighter. Incredible and his 25 defences would almost certainly have been 35?,40? In terms of fighters before him I can’t see any beating him at all. Johnson was crafty and outstanding in his day but he fought nobody like Louis. Dempsey is very overrated if you look at his record. Post Louis, Rocky would get cut up too badly, Liston maybe although the Ali fight’s definitely taint him. Frazier. You’d have to favour Louis. Ali I think would have been too fast and agile. Foreman maybe too powerful. Holmes is close. Tyson was close too but Louis had more resolve. Holy close. Lennox likely beats him as do the k brothers. That’s about it I think.

The great holy one of his very early matches not even his 10th match I thought you said it was a close match vs louis, anybody joe fought as advanced as this Holy or the man he fought crazy idiot?