Prime Tyson could have been the best ever??

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  • Poet682006
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    #171
    Originally posted by sleazyfellow
    what the hell? do you even know what a one punch knockout is? and to think that nobody did it since the 80s is just ignorant. Robinson fulmer 2 springs to mind..but let me guess, robinson hit him thru out the fight so it doesnt count? what about **** tiger/bob foster?
    Bob Foster vs Mike Quarry

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    • Wiley Hyena
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      #172
      Oh, Tyson had his share of one punch knockouts, no doubt. I will not take that away from him. But, then again most of them occurred against helpless punching bags that were served up to him, because the masses would actually pay to see that nonsense.

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      • sleazyfellow
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        #173
        Originally posted by them_apples

        yea we are talking about heavy weights ray of sunshine, so calm the hell down. If people want to argue or prove me wrong they can at least do it sensibly.
        cant prove anyone wrong if they think they are know it alls.

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        • them_apples
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          #174
          Originally posted by sleazyfellow
          cant prove anyone wrong if they think they are know it alls.

          Well, you could read the past few posts....
          I know there have been one hit knockouts in other divisions, in fact the record is held by some guy, knocked a guy cold in 10 seconds of the first round I believe. Not a title fight though.

          anyways, I watched the Foster vs Quarry video, good fight. I'm surprised Quarry went down to a buffed up light heavy, but yea its a valid one hit KO IMO.

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            #175
            Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
            Oh, Tyson had his share of one punch knockouts, no doubt. I will not take that away from him. But, then again most of them occurred against helpless punching bags that were served up to him, because the masses would actually pay to see that nonsense.
            I'd say he had a good amount of 1 punch ko's over decent fighters, doing that to a good fighter is already a very hard thing to do and most of the time it is the result of a lucky punch. Some extremely impressive ones in Carl Williams, Frans Botha, Tony Tubbs, Michael Spinks etc. And these were all counter punches, or ones where he set them up. No lucky punches imo. some of them he faked a left to throw the right bomb, or ducked a jab to count with a merciless left hook.

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            • BKM-
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              #176
              Check this out them apples



              Some of the classics I mentioned are in it.

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              • Poet682006
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                #177
                Originally posted by them_apples
                Well, you could read the past few posts....
                I know there have been one hit knockouts in other divisions, in fact the record is held by some guy, knocked a guy cold in 10 seconds of the first round I believe. Not a title fight though.

                anyways, I watched the Foster vs Quarry video, good fight. I'm surprised Quarry went down to a buffed up light heavy, but yea its a valid one hit KO IMO.
                Mike Quarry WAS a Light-Heavyweight. His brother JERRY was the Heavyweight.

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                • them_apples
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                  #178
                  @ yaman, thats a pretty sick video, lots of good KO's.

                  Mike Quarry WAS a Light-Heavyweight. His brother JERRY was the Heavyweight.
                  **** I'm making so many mistakes, so it's a light heavyweight fight?

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                  • Franko
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                    #179
                    Originally posted by OASIS_LAD
                    No, you need more than great physical attributes.

                    I'd pick prime versions of: Liston, Ali, Foreman and Holmes to all beat Tyson.

                    Stick Tyson in the 60's or 70's and he would be a top 5, maybe top 3 Heavyweight. He would be a force but he wouldn't dominate like he did in the worst Heavyweight division of all time.
                    The worst Heavyweight division of all time??? Check your history... try most recent for starters. Tyson beat some very good fighters at the height of his dominance... Trevor Berbick, Mitch Green, Tony Tucker, Tony Tubbs, James Smith to name but a few... These fighters would've made todays Heavyweight division a damn sight more interesting... Even Frank Bruno would've been one of the biggest noises if he was competing in today's Heavyweight division, therefore, you can see where i'm going with this... Todays Heavyweight division is much much worse than the Heavyweight division at the time of Mike Tyson's dominance.
                    I wouldn't say that Tyson is the greatest of all time, and indeed, i think he'd have went off the rails at some point no matter who was guiding his career. Cus D'Amato developed the majority of his time creating the next great Heavyweight champion, and it is pretty much common knowledge that he neglected teaching his pupil some social skills along the way.

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                    • taws6
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                      #180
                      yeah if some how he stayed out of trouble i dont think he never would have lost, but still id have to say ali would still be number one no matter what.

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