look man not my problem if you have self hate issues. Go seee a therpaist
All you dumb fuks are missing the point.
Theyre charging 20 buck a month for dog****. Thats the point.
Id rather save the money and waste it on other ****
I'll trade you a carton of Marlboro Lights for a month of DAZN.
That’s a deal. I’m guessing you don’t smoke or you’d know you could get (depending on where you live) at least 3 months of dazn for that.
I don't smoke anymore. I've had DAZN for $100 a year since they started.
Sorry. I meant to say there is NO evidence that being knocked out in a car crash lowers a boxer's punch resistance.
We do have evidence though. Naseem Hamed was the car wreck for Augie Sanchez and Sanchez left the ring on a stretcher. 16 months later he stepped in against John Michael Johnson. And, well, this happened:
https://youtu.be/VRMbeFpg43A?t=347
I'd put St. Louis on there - Archie Moore, Henry Armstrong, Sonny Liston, Michael and Leon Spinks, Virgil Akins, Arthur Johnson, Charley Riley, Freddie Norwood, Bob Satterfield, etc.
That’s some great intel man. I do a scorecard thread on here to try and track down bad scorecards and single out repeat offenders. Dave Moretti has been a repeat offender this year.
Nice. I found it and I'll follow. Thanks.
I try to know what the judges' history is a bit that way I can guess what they're looking for. I don't hardly score anything myself I just wait to see which name scored what and see if I wasn't close to what I thought they'd score.
I track judges history now compared to my own scores. If I score a fight 116-112 and the judge had it 115-113 I consider that a one round difference.
Then I keep track to see who I most often agree with. And so far it's Steve Weisfeld, Don Trella, Julie Lederman and Glenn Feldman. I agree with them all more than 93% of the time. I agree with the average judge 88% of the time.
Some judges I disagree with 20% of the time. That's awfully wide and I probably wouldn't bet on fights when they are involved.
Here is my tracking sheet over the last year or so. https://boxeoguide.com/judges
Got it, so all the American Heavyweights, Cruiserweights etc. are fat. All the 5 foot to 6 foot tall males are 220 lbs. Makes sense......
5'6"? Are we talking about males here?
But what I don’t understand is the assumption that it only happens in the US. This happens almost everywhere. If you’re a bigger sportsman in the UK for example, boxing isn’t going to be the first sport to go to either
What is? I'm American so please educate me.
Yes but they have transcended the sport, a bit like Mayweather did. Fury has only recently done so by the way, and a lot of that is down to Joshua's promotion and the need to have the rivalry
Joshua has been groomed since the olympics, being placed on national advertisements with almost cringeworthy efficiency. He was all over brands like Lynx and Lucozade for example, where the only other single personality I can think of is maybe Lewis Hamilton. Nationally. Fury beating Wilder has thrown him into Joshua's media spotlight
It may be true there are more British boxers per capita, but I don't have those statistics. I would be interested to see what this was like in the 1980s also for example. British boxing is in a bit of a renaissance period right now though at a grassroots level, and I don't think we'll be seeing the fruits of that for another 10 years or so, and would be interesting to revisit then
Here are the top 4 countries by total professional boxers
Mexico: 4,016 pro boxers, 1 in 330,000 people becomes a boxer there
UK: 1,046 pro boxers, 1 in 750,000 becomes a boxer
Japan: 1,222 pro boxers, 1 in 900,000 becomes a boxer
US: 3,345 pro boxers, 1 in 1,000,000 becomes a boxer
I admit I was expecting the difference to be a bit wider.
Joshua Greer: https://boxeoguide.com/boxer/joshua-greer-jr
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0bUItGkFOk
Mike Plania: https://boxeoguide.com/boxer/mike-plania
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzbqYrz-0k4
Giovanni Santillan: https://boxeoguide.com/boxer/giovanni-santillan
https://youtu.be/AxID-ooMicA?t=2277
Antonio Demarco: https://boxeoguide.com/boxer/antonio-demarco
For the most part, we grow up playing either football or basketball. More money less damage. THAT combined with the heavyweight division changing sizes over the decades into the giants we have today have diminished our reservoir of heavies.
Heavies use to be 175lbs... well that guy is a RB in the NFL with a $6 million contract.
Heavies today are 230/240lbs...well that guy is OL in the NFL making $2 million straight out of college.
The safety of other sports + the rising popularity of other sports + the generally easier path to millions of other sports have drawn away would be athletes hall across Boxing divisions but especially the heavies.
Let's just be honest. The overwhelming majority of the BIG TWO sports in America are mostly comprised of Black American athletes. Sports in our culture are a way to escape poverty/lower income that is very common for us to deal with... I don't wanna risk waiting till 30 years old to finally make $4 million in a fight and if I lose the fight that was it; when I can make $4 Ms straight out of college at 21 years old wearing padding- and it won't matter if I don't always win. Just a better "offer" Boxing can't match- the offer of stability and a lower ceiling to wealth. Crawford signed another deal with TR for that same reason- the guaranteed stability.
Soccer is a global sport. However, all over the world- I'll use Europe as an example, they have individual organized leagues where these players make millions. Then they come together for a huge global tournament by country. If boxing starts doing something similar the sport will gain ground again.
Indeed. Great post.
lol at those making the same tired old "All the heavyweights are playing football/basketball". What a pathetic and easily debunkable coping theory. Where are all the American boxing champs outside of the HW division? Are they dominating every weight class below heavyweight? Presumably the 160 pounders aren't playing basketball and football? So where are they? "Uhh-uhhh....they are playing...umm....badminton...or starting rap careers..." lol.
There aren't many adult males in the U.S. that weigh less than 160. We are a very large and fat country.
https://www.healthline.com/health/mens-health/average-weight-for-men#average-weight-around-the-world
No, we're talking about all males ranging from 5 feet tall to 6 feet tall. Presumably there are millions of those in America...so where are all the American champions within that range? MW, SMW, LHW etc.?
Boxing isn't first world middle class USA vs UK anymore. As an example, can you tell me what happened after the collapse of the Soviet Union and what affect did it have on boxing? Answer this. ("After the collapse of the Soviet Union, all americans became really fat and started playing football and basketball!")
There are only 171 LHW pro boxers in America, a country with 165 million men.
I don't think it is
It's a fringe sport here too
Most people are familiar with names, and historical fighters, but most don't watch the sport at all
But don't most people know who AJ and Tyson Fury are? Nobody in America even knows Deontay Wilder exists.
There are more professional boxers per capita in the UK than the US. And it seems like there must be a hell of a lot more UK fighters in the ams per capita just based on the style they all fight with.