titan_1987

"I lost because I didn't have my lucky socks" or "I don't want to fight because I want to spend time with my family". Exactly. Manny Excuseiao. Floyd kept the world waiting for about two months.. He could have spared us all the agony. All the hype of this fight died with his excuse. Maybe next year when he comes out of his "second retirement", he'll fight Paulie Malignaggi as his tune-up at 144 pounds, and maybe then, i'm saying "maybe then" fight Pacquiao by the end of 2011.. or 2012... or maybe never at all. Willing to negotiate beats "not willing to negotiate" any time of day. Pac-Mayweather by 2010 has officially been closed with Floyd retiring. Pacquiao, even though he's gained Power(politics), Fortune, Fame and a family/country that loves him.. he's still willing to to get in the ring to give out a show to fans and haters alike. There is only one Manny Pacquiao and only one Floyd Mayweather Jr. It's disappointing that the latter doesn't like to get in the ring with the former

Never denied that you dunce. You brought up a 19 year old Pac so I corrected you. I give Pacquiao props for his 1st fight with Barrera but nothing after that. Point is, Pac was matched against a counter pouncher who outboxed him. Pacquiao could not handle the step up in class and was gifted the draw and decision. Only fanboys fell for that shit. De La Hoya was old, drained and shot. I give Pacquiao props until his last fight at ww. Clottey, Cotto, and Hatton were legit. No one will ever deny that

Right, like i didn't know that. Hopefully he wouldn't be retiring next year like he said he would. He could fight for his 9 division title for the 160 weight division at a catchweight of 156 lbs.

Pac always says he is respectful of the sport of boxing.. but he's not... and maybe he is, aware that he is hurting the sport of boxing by demanding fighting at catchweights for division belts. He's not bright at making decisions. Fighting for the 154 division for title belt at catchweight of 150, with the wrong choice of opponent doesn't bode well for him. History will not forget this.

Exactly!!!!!!!! As much as I hate Fraudlinaggi,he would beat Judah! trust me, he won't beat Judah. Only way he beats him is at dancing in the ring

He was never the same after Floyd took his 0. He was always the same fighter after Floyd took his 0. He always remained the same man with the usual swagger in and out of the ring. That's why he hired Mayweather Sr to his camp to try to change his style and technique. Unlucky for him, he reverted back to the brawler style once he tasted Pacquiao's leather raining down his face. Straight from the Hatton's mouth. Pacquiao's 2 rd KO started the spiral of drugs and epic binging. Floyd's win over him bruised his ego but not his spirit as a fighter. Besides, i don't hear a pip about Floyd winning over him in his interview as a cause of depression and angst. Props to Hatton for coming out of the pit of despair. Hope he doesn't trip himself back.

says the pactard ..stfu man..floyd took his zero and hatton went down hill..he wasn't the same person again..floyd layed down the blue print on how to beat him..pac always fights people once they're done..he fought 3 of floyds leftovers lol floyd damaged hatton and the drug and alcohol abuse started from there..that's why he looked sh** in the duckqiao fight. Who let you out? Why don't you do us all a favor and start reading the article again. I'm guessing you missed the part "Ricky revealed the depression struck after his defeat to Manny Pacquiao". So what if Floyd took Hatton's 0? Did it ruin him as a fighter? NO! He rebounded and took to the ring after a couple of months. When Rustico Torrecampo KO'd Manny in 3 rds, did it ruin him? F! NO! So STFU! Straight from the Hitman's mouth, I'll believe RICKY HATTON.

On an interview show with Ricardo Lois, Lou DiBella pointed out how suspicious the activities are and that people affiliated with Pac's camp are dirty. Lou is a successful promoter and a Harvard Law grad. I really don't see why he would be jealous of a guy with a third grade education. Pac isn't the first successful, high-earning boxer. Is Lou trying to tear down all of the other guys as well? Why don't you stick with the peds shit. I like it better when you raise arguments because of pac's refusal for ost rather than sh!t on him for his "illiteracy"... So why hate on pac, he's not the only boxer who's a highschool dropout, besides it's their fault for being so poor they never could have afforded a decent education

GL: So Manny, what do you think of Mayweather? and how do you see a fight between you and him? MP:Uhmm you know... It's like this... Mayweeder is a defensib fighter... Uhh i like to fight toe to toe, you know (laughs hahaha)... It's gonna be a historic fight.... you know.... uhhhhh...... (frowns uncomfortably)... You know! I think the interview between GL and MP should have been like this without the editing..

some of you are completely out of control nowadays. "Manny pacquiao is illiterate. Manny pac never finished college. He's a highschool dropout, he's a superstitious twat".. When did we ever start questioning a boxer's personal life. You say pac is illiterate, then you might as well say that about more than half of the boxers nowadays are also stupid and illiterate based on your judgment. There are so many boxers who had to quit school out of sheer poverty and their only way out was through boxing. Pacquiao started from scratch and he is what he is today not because of these "peds shit" but because of his dream to fight in a ring. And he's accomplished that. I doubt Pacquiao would have ever been a boxer if he was given more opportunities in life to go to school and come home and eat meals three times a day. I don't care if he's illiterate, superstitious, a highschool dropout or whatever names you may call him. Yeah, he's a highschool dropout... but it's a given after decades from now, people will remember him as one of the greatest boxers who emerged from Asia and how he salvaged his life from the depth of poverty rather than a superstitious illiterate Filipino that you claim him to be.

I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of alts voted in that poll. It's good to be so hysterically passionate about your favorite boxer's c0ck... oops my bad

I'd pick an NSB any day with a healthy amount of these kind of fans than an NSB without it. NSB wouldn't be any fun without them... Imagine an NSB without pactards, flomos and so on and so forth.. I bet NSB wouldn't be so lively than it already is right now.

"peeleft: Damn, these retarted manny pac hatethreads has become obscenely disgusting. Usual haters just love flooding this kind of threads Try to engage in some debate, and you'll be automatically branded as a nuthugger.

Because Floyd was P4P #1, retired, came back and beat the #2 and #3 P4P fighters. In addition, he beat two of fighters, albeit better versions, that Manny has fought during his "streak". Cotto and Clottey don't put Manny above Floyd. Period. So are you saying that the 144 lb version of JMM was better than the 135 lb JMM? You've got to be kidding me right?? JMM was most comfortable in 135, he gave Pacquiao hell when they fought at 130. So what if JMM fought Paquiao at WW, what do you think would have happened?????...... If you argue that Cotto was damaged goods because he lost to Margarito and went life and death with clottey, We too can argue that Mosley was damaged goods, even though he had a magnificent outing against Margarito, it still doesn't erase the fact that he got dominated by Vernon twice and by Winky once. Not to mention he is now 38 y/o and 1 year and 6 months removed from his last fight. I don't have a problem seeing Mayweather going regaining the top spot. You can shoot holes at Pac's resume. The same can be said about Floyd's resume..

Posters should read this. It's a good read about what pound for pound really stands for. http://www.lukekohler.com/2007/08/12/how-do-you-define-pound-for-pound-in-boxing/ Cliff has his opinion. I believe he just finds it that Floyd is the better fighter than Manny under any conditions. I admit that Floyd is generally more skilled that Pacquiao is, but if ever they fight, i believe Pacquiao has that puncher's chance. 50/50

Pac blinked, he's ready to accept the 14 day cut-off. He was crucified for not accepting it the first time. I thought it was a good thing that he didn't accept at first because the fight between Floyd and Money would never had happened. Now that the 3rd party has been eliminated, Floyd and Pac is the only fight left to see. Pac is willing to compromise. I hope Floyd does too. No way in hell does Pac agree to blood testing up to the day of the fight.

And "scum" like Manny? His demands are OK because? Seriously, Manny should have just gone with the "my feets itches" excuse as he did after JMM #1. Would have saved us alot of bickering. It's not like Pacquiao is the only who one makes excuses. Floyd rejected to step in the ring with Cotto because "he lives in Puerto Rico, so we are not fighting for the boxing fans who the best is" "and he must realize, that he's with Bob Arum, he's a grumpy old man" Floyd interview with Brian Kenny back in 2006: "well, you got to realize Brian Kenny, I don't make the rules in boxing, all i do is to beat the opponents they put in front of me, I'm not the judges!" So, who's making the rules now? who's demanding random bloodtesting? Both Pac and Floyd add these stipulations thats out of the norm. Both parties are to blame if and when the fight never gets signed. But now that one party is willing to compromise, i hope the other does too

"Only Pacquiao walks away from a $40 million payday" If you argue that he cares so much about money. The fight should have been made a long time ago. The $40 million payday was far from Pacquiao's mind during the course of their negotiation. It was the random blood test that Floyd wanted. The fight broke down because Pacquiao didn't want to give in to Floyd's demand. If Pacquiao cared so much about the money, he would have signed to fight already. The issue of debate for them has always been about random blood testing. Money isn't the problem. "Only Pacquiao walks away from a $40 million payday" enough said.

"Only Pacquiao walks away from a $40 million payday" If you argue that he cares so much about money. The fight should have been made a long time ago. The $40 million payday was far from Pacquiao's mind during the course of their negotiation. It was the random blood test that Floyd wanted. The fight broke down because Pacquiao didn't want to give in to Floyd's demand. If Pacquiao cared so much about the money, he would have signed to fight already. The issue of debate for them has always been about random blood testing. Money isn't the problem. "Only Pacquiao walks away form a $40 million payday" enough said.

what a great response-----and the caps lock stays on kid--lol-- first of all, think about how your post looks---you said if manny was greedy, he would have sued for millions, not a measly 75,000 as if $75,000 isn't a lot of money----who the hell wants to pay $75,000 for words they said? N0w, you're putting a price on what's greedy and what's not greedy----money is money, period--- there's no way you can sit there and type in the $10 million was just a stipulation because of floyd coming in over weight---i know he came in overweight against jmm----but, think for a minute about what you said---you just played yourself--- you say in one sentence, that the 10 million dollar was just a stipualtion---it wasn't a stipulation, it was ****ing demand, 1st of all---trying to make an excuse for manny-- then in youe next paragraph, you say, if manny was greedy, he would sued for millions, not a measly $75,000----so he the kid greedy or not, so he demands $10 million dollars for every pound floyd comes overweight right? Isn't that millions of dollars? Doesn't that qualify him to be greedy? Or is it because he didn't sue floyd for millions of dollars----he demanded it? Not sued right? He sued for a measly 75,000 dollars---(which means he demanded them to pay him for their accusations)-as if 75,000 is measly----maybe to you, to me, that's a hell of alot of money for accusations and speculation--- shit, i don't know anyone who wouldn't think suing for 75 grand over accusations isn't greed--- but, let see how you respond to this one kiddo---i'm sure you'll have another great argument---- manny went on as far as to sue floyd jr for something he never accused him of---so now, he wants floyd to give him money over something his father said----that's not greed? I'm waiting for manny to sue oscar's wife, and floyd's kids next for a measly 75 grand--- How old are you? Don't call me kid. Don't try to act like youre much older than me. Did i ever say that $75 K was measly to me? I was reffering to Pacquiao suing for less when he could have sued for more. Let's get this straight: pacquiao sued not for the money but because he felt he was wrongly accused and he's reputation being tarnished. Suing in general does not make you greedy. Nowadays, people sue to in order to make a quick buck. Pacquiao did not sue in order to get more money but to prove in court that he was wrongly accused and to prove that he is innocent of the allegations that he is accused of. For you, Pacquiao sued because of greed. I don't see it that way.

okay, we just agree to disagree--and don't take offense when i call you kid---i call everybody that---i'm not trying to insult you by calling you that---sorry if i did---it's just a word i used to get called and it stuck with me, that's all---no worries--- i misinterpreted you saying a measly 75,000---i wasn't trying to imply that you thought it was not a lot of money--i was talking about it in general--- my whole point to you was to say manny is more about money than you think----and because of his actions, it shows---at least in my eyes----me and you just think different on the subject, that's all---no problem in that ---anyway, i wasn't trying to jump all over you on the matter---i was just making an opinion----floyd gets hammered for pretty much everything he does, and i feel it's not fair to him to get the blame for everything---he has a right to want ost's done for both he and manny----manny doesn't have to give into floyd, but then he can flip flop one minute, and then take a stand on how floyd is really ducking the fight, when in fact, floyd isn't ducking the fight---floyd has stood firm on his ost deal, even though he changed the cutoff date to compromise with team pac, but they kept lying and making themselves look guilty, by continuously changing dates and arguments on the matter---that's all i meant by it--- You're right. At the end of day, you're a floyd fan and i'm a pac fan. We'd probably disagree with a lot of things. But that's all cool. I take no offense with it.

you really have to explain how floyd is walking all over manny by just asking for THEM BOTH, NOT JUST MANNY, BOTH HE AND MANNY TO TAKE THE ****ING TESTS JACKASS---- FLOYD ASKED FOR ONE THING, AND IF IT IS ABOUT PRIDE FOR MANNY, THEN HE WOULDN'T HAVE AGREED TO THE TEST PERIOD---YOUR ARGUMENT LOOKS REALLY STUPID, WHEN MANNY IS MAKING HIMSELF LOOK FOOLISH--- BY TAKING THE MAYWEATHERS AND GOLDEN BOY TO COURT, FOR WHAT? TO SUE THEM FOR MONEY? YES, DEFAMING HIS CHARACTER---BUT HE IS SUING THEM FOR THEIR MONEY---OR ELSE HE WOULDN'T TAKE THEM TO COURT---YOU LOOK LIKE A COMPLETE IDIOT WITH POSTS LIKE THESE---AND MANNY ISN'T HELPING YOUR ARGUMENT AT ALL--- Look here jackass, i wasn't arguing about how Floyd is walking all over Manny about the random blood test. I'm all for it, and i think Manny should take the test in order to silence his critics. Phuck off! if Pac was so greedy, he should have sued for millions of dollars instead of just a measly $75,000. The $10 Million was just a stipulation because of the fact the Floyd weighed above the contracted weight with his fight with JMM. Now, why don't you lay off the CAPS lock. It's not helping your case

When did Floyd reject a fight with Cotto? Post destruction of Zab? Post-W vs shane? If that was his excuse ill admit it, it is ****ing lame. You see, asking for additional testing is not being a judge nor is it putting rules in a boxing match. It is simply a demand for a fair and level playingfield. Just like putting a multi-million dollar penalty on missed weight. It was an interview with ESPN after he's fight with WWE's Big Show back in February 2008. When he was asked "why don't you step in the ring with Miguel Cotto?" He didn't expect the question, so i suppose he couldn't give a straight answer. But regardless of that, he'll dismantle Cotto easily in my opinion. Just like in the interview with Brian Kenny why he was he opting to fight Zab Judah instead of Carlos Baldomir when the latter upsetted the former. He eventually fought Baldomir and gave him an ass whipping Carlos would never forget. Floyd wants random drug testing. Manny is wishy-washy...backtracks and says he is willing to compromise. It's up to them to iron things out. I just hope Floyd's willing to accept Pac's proposal. Manny says he feels weak when blood is drawn out of him near the fight. Who are we to deny him of his opinion, it may be BS, regardless of that, it still affects him psychologically. A 5 to 14 day cut-off is sufficient. Random blood testing up to the day of the fight is not the solution.

what a great response-----and the caps lock stays on kid--lol-- first of all, think about how your post looks---you said if manny was greedy, he would have sued for millions, not a measly 75,000 as if $75,000 isn't a lot of money----who the hell wants to pay $75,000 for words they said? N0w, you're putting a price on what's greedy and what's not greedy----money is money, period--- there's no way you can sit there and type in the $10 million was just a stipulation because of floyd coming in over weight---i know he came in overweight against jmm----but, think for a minute about what you said---you just played yourself--- you say in one sentence, that the 10 million dollar was just a stipualtion---it wasn't a stipulation, it was ****ing demand, 1st of all---trying to make an excuse for manny-- then in youe next paragraph, you say, if manny was greedy, he would sued for millions, not a measly $75,000----so he the kid greedy or not, so he demands $10 million dollars for every pound floyd comes overweight right? Isn't that millions of dollars? Doesn't that qualify him to be greedy? Or is it because he didn't sue floyd for millions of dollars----he demanded it? Not sued right? He sued for a measly 75,000 dollars---(which means he demanded them to pay him for their accusations)-as if 75,000 is measly----maybe to you, to me, that's a hell of alot of money for accusations and speculation--- shit, i don't know anyone who wouldn't think suing for 75 grand over accusations isn't greed--- but, let see how you respond to this one kiddo---i'm sure you'll have another great argument---- manny went on as far as to sue floyd jr for something he never accused him of---so now, he wants floyd to give him money over something his father said----that's not greed? I'm waiting for manny to sue oscar's wife, and floyd's kids next for a measly 75 grand--- now you've lost me.. Why the hell would Manny sue Oscar's wife and Floyd's kids? You're out of point

Pac presents a lot of problems for Floyd. Pac has fluid movement, goes in and out, pummels his opponents with lightning fast bombs and slips sideways to the left whenever facing orthodox punchers. It makes it harder to counter with your right hand whenever an opponent moves to your left side. Not to mention Pac has excellent footwork. Bobs in and out, and dishes out punches coming from different angles (which KD a lot of fighters - marquez, diaz, hatton, cotto). If Pac manages to throw an above average of 100 punches per round, i highly doubt this would be an easy night's work for FLoyd. But definitely Floyd's excellent defense would probably enable him to block and dodge most of those punches, and dish out wicked counterpunches on pac's face.. But sooner or later, Pac WILL be able to land some good hayemakers down the stretch. Pac either by TKO or Floyd by way of decision

If you want to come off as a classy guy and someone respectable you don't do that shit. This article makes me think of Khan in a whole different light, not something good. Easy now Mr. Moral Policeman. Why don't you take a look at the bright side, at least now we all know that Khan ain't gay. So take a deep breath and breath out slowly...

Shane was seen as Floyd's equal and he got his azz whipped worse than JMM and Oscar, they actually did better than Shane against PBF. Marquez took Floyds shots better, Oscar kept him on defense. Suurreee, did Marquez ever to manage to rock Floyd in any point in time in their fight? Mosley never even wiped the canvass with his ass. Floyd>> Mosley>> JMM

1.4 to 1.5 million buys!!! You first saw it here:boxing:

This all started with the African-American remarks made by Bernard and the whole others out there regarding Pacquiao. Now it seems to have boiled over and so many are now riding the racial train. I never even knew that blacks segregated themselves themselves between those who are African-American and those that were born outside the country of USA. Why couldn't Hopkins just say that Pacquiao was avoiding slick black fighters instead of "Pacquiao avoiding African-American slick fighters". Now that opens a lot of questions.. Now, you've got white supremacist owning Martinez as white just because he looks white. How sad that boxing now has come to this..

yea duckquiao is bangin pinay actresses saturday nights and sunday mornings he's in church making his wife cry :rofl: a God fearing man indeed :lol1: I didn't even know about that... you're more of a Pac fan than i thought... You sh!t on me dude,... I even googled it... I'm such a noob