Did Manny duck Mayweather when he put the weight penalty in the contract?

Really? Wish it. You never heard someone say, "I got you" or "got you"...i e, I understand you?

Got you. .... Really? Wish it.

with just 1 loss suddenly cotto is no longer in his prime when pac fought him? what do you think of pac then? having 3 losses with 1 loss coming by brutal ko. pac must have been out of his prime since what? 15 years ago? What Tony did to Miguel really put the exclamation point on it, but he has been in a number of wars early on. All of that adds up. Pac has been in wars, but Pac has gotten better as he has moved up. Although he has taken punishment, he seems to still be himself (or better). The same can't be said about Miguel.

No,I'm not that much upset,I think he's funny,he often makes me laugh. I don't need to ignore him to the point to avoid 24/7. Got you. ....

Simple...ignore him. No,I'm not that much upset,I think he's funny,he often makes me laugh. I don't need to ignore him to the point to avoid 24/7.

LOL. Here is a bottle for ya. :bottle: Everyone that has followed Miguel's career (that includes ME!), knows that he was NOT in his prime when he fought Manny. Manny's trainer even agreed! http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=324903 So before you catch feelings about me "talkin about Manny's opponents", pay more attention. Thanks bro I have a cold beer. Yea,we all know that.I never said Cotto wasn't damaged. But,he still was a bigger threat than Judah,Bruseless,Baldomir,Gatti... Like I said,wash Floyd's ass before.

Floyd isn't loved because he's black(according to his majesty Floyd himself). FLOGIC AT HIS BEST. Of course,not because he's an arrogant load prick,and gave us garbage fights,Bruseless is my fav. Now,the excuse is he has a double personnality. He tell us he's all real talk,then he is a public caracter.I'm lost. one thing is sure,he's a walking contradiction. Simple...ignore him.

Floyd isn't loved because he's black(according to his majesty Floyd himself). FLOGIC AT HIS BEST. Of course,not because he's an arrogant load prick,and gave us garbage fights,Bruseless is my fav. Now,the excuse is he has a double personnality. He tell us he's all real talk,then he is a public caracter.I'm lost. one thing is sure,he's a walking contradiction.

demanding 10 million dollars for each pound Floyd came over 147? did he expect Floyd not to agree to it? i think he did....when floyd instantly agreed to it, did manny say **** that shit----and decided to go on a tanjent about how bad floyd was for wanting ost----even though manny initially agreed to it--but wanted to dictate the time they were issued? bottomline, manny ducked the living shit out of floyd---he knows the verdict, so he'd rather fight him in court, and remember, floyd never said manny was on anything---but manny did duck a 25 million dollar drug test---freddie was willing to take them though--he went on record and said he would for that kind of money---it made manny look foolish--and it shows you how much bobo arum pays attention to manny---he didn't even know manny took a blood test 24 days prior to the hatton fight---he had to go an d do research for it---arum is a scumbag----and he's greedy---he's not evena fighter, but likes to dictate what a fighter does and don't do---manny accepts it---what does that say about manny? If you wanted to duck someone, the easiest way to do that is to make a stipulation in that contract that you are most likely sure that the person you want to duck won't agree to, or will have a very big chance of not complying. Since Mayweather Jr. NEVER went above a 147 lbs fight, its reasonable to assume that wouldn't be an impossible stipulation for Floyd. Floyd is a first-class athlete and coming at the weigh in within the stipulated weight is nothing to him. The penalty is simply to prevent him from repeating his weigh in shenanigans with Marquez. Only people with much hatred for Manny would fail to see this simple fact.

Why so guilty, I wasn't talkin about you, I was talking about Atlas. I ain't guilty, I'm just speaking for MYSELF on the matter.

The point is before talkin about Manny's opponents,wash Floyd's dirty ass. LOL. Here is a bottle for ya. :bottle: Everyone that has followed Miguel's career (that includes ME!), knows that he was NOT in his prime when he fought Manny. Manny's trainer even agreed! "If you go from being a world champion and having that ego and being undefeated when you lose for the first time it definitely affects you and the punishment he (Cotto) took in that fight was severe and sometimes you never come back from a beating like that. "He is on the road to a comeback but he is still not the same." http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=324903 So before you catch feelings about me "talkin about Manny's opponents", pay more attention.

No Oscar wasn't prime...you won't see me argue for that. What are you getting at? Again, what's the point? Where did you see me discredit Pac for fighting Cotto and Clottey? I asked ol boy did he think that Cotto was in his prime when he fought Pac. He clearly wasn't (after the wars he's been and what Tony did to em). Still a threat, of course he was. The point is before talkin about Manny's opponents,wash Floyd's dirty ass.

Show me one post of mine where I discredited him for BOTH of those wins....wait..you won't. Stop crying. I even made a thread WAAAAAY before Pac fought Cotto and said that he would stop Miguel. Talk to Roach, he is the one you need to worry about discrediting those guys you named. Why so guilty, I wasn't talkin about you, I was talking about Atlas.

Fact is Cotto and Clottey were a much bigger threat than a blown up Marquez or a half assed Judah, yet flogic would have them discrediting Pac for beating them yet praising Floyd for decisioning his opponents. Ooooooh he got great boxing ability. The Flogic,I like that concept. Yeah,we all know Cotto at 145 is a bigger threat than Marquez at 146. If Cotto fought Marquez at 145,he would have broke him in two. After what I saw in the Juand Diaz war... But you got Atlas shitting on Manny cuz he picked Cotto,and giving props to Floyd for the Marquez's fight. FLOGIC. Atlas is so biased.I think he's a afraid to be called a racist.It's a pure american syndrom.

Fact is Cotto and Clottey were a much bigger threat than a blown up Marquez or a half assed Judah, yet flogic would have them discrediting Pac for beating them yet praising Floyd for decisioning his opponents. Ooooooh he got great boxing ability. Show me one post of mine where I discredited him for BOTH of those wins....wait..you won't. Stop crying. I even made a thread WAAAAAY before Pac fought Cotto and said that he would stop Miguel. Talk to Roach, he is the one you need to worry about discrediting those guys you named.

Oscar when he fought Floyd??PRIME? After being molested by Sturm nd Hopkins at 160?? No Oscar wasn't prime...you won't see me argue for that. JUdah after Tszyu shattered his sould and his jaw?? What are you getting at? Marquez at 144,or better 146 after he went to war with ****in Diaz?? Again, what's the point? Mosley?? I agree Mosley is still a threat,but so were Cotto nd Clottey for a blown up lightweight huh? Where did you see me discredit Pac for fighting Cotto and Clottey? I asked ol boy did he think that Cotto was in his prime when he fought Pac. He clearly wasn't (after the wars he's been and what Tony did to em). Still a threat, of course he was.

Oscar when he fought Floyd??PRIME? After being molested by Sturm nd Hopkins at 160?? JUdah after Tszyu shattered his sould and his jaw?? Marquez at 144,or better 146 after he went to war with ****in Diaz?? Mosley?? I agree Mosley is still a threat,but so were Cotto nd Clottey for a blown up lightweight huh? Fact is Cotto and Clottey were a much bigger threat than a blown up Marquez or a half assed Judah, yet flogic would have them discrediting Pac for beating them yet praising Floyd for decisioning his opponents. Ooooooh he got great boxing ability.

Are you arguing that Cotto was PRIME when he fought Manny? Oscar when he fought Floyd??PRIME? After being molested by Sturm nd Hopkins at 160?? JUdah after Tszyu shattered his sould and his jaw?? Marquez at 144,or better 146 after he went to war with ****in Diaz?? Mosley?? I agree Mosley is still a threat,but so were Cotto nd Clottey for a blown up lightweight huh?

You thought it. I didn't. Let's trade facts,you are trading tears bro... Winky losses,Forrest losses,Oscar's rematch,Cotto loss,Mayorga garbage party=AT LEAST 3 BLUEPRINTS TO BEAT MOSLEY=TOP 5 P4P WTF?? The Margo win help little in my book,I dont have a one fight memory. 39 years old=OLD You get it? I don't know if he was forced but has no choice cuz of the Pac debacle and the garbage and shit fights he gave fans for the last years. I was being sarcastic bro. I was only repeating the stuff that I hear on this site. I wasn't serious.

Oh...I thought Floyd was FORCED to fight him? You thought it. I didn't. Let's trade facts,you are trading tears bro... Winky losses,Forrest losses,Oscar's rematch,Cotto loss,Mayorga garbage party=AT LEAST 3 BLUEPRINTS TO BEAT MOSLEY=TOP 5 P4P WTF?? The Margo win help little in my book,I dont have a one fight memory. 39 years old=OLD You get it? I don't know if he was forced but has no choice cuz of the Pac debacle and the garbage and shit fights he gave fans for the last years.