Poll coming...
I'm pretty sure we all knew what negotiating factor killed the fight for Mayweather-Pacquiao on March 13 and that was the cut off date. Pacquiao wanted 24 days and Floyd wanted 14.
Floyd now no longer wants a cut off date and most likely won't agree to a 50/50 with the purse.
And Pacquiao has changed his mind in his latest official statement that he's willing to take 14 days. http://pacman.craveonline.com/articles/news/83002-official-statement-made-may-3rd-230-am-philippines-time
I'm interested to see how you all think the possible renegotiations will result in. We know these two have large egos, but this is the fight of our era (no matter what your opinions are of either fighter) and some budging needs to be made. Pacquiao changing his mind has given me some hope.
This is just a prediction thread.
Will they agree to the 14 day cut off? No cut offs?
Also:
Do you think it will be 50/50? 60/40?
Where will the fight be located? Vegas? Texas?
Will the $10 million weight penalty still be in the contract?
Or will the fight never happen? And Arum screws us all?
I don't care if the fight happens or not, I just wana see Floyd finally lose to somebody.
Man, I wish he had been given the L to the first Castillo fight..
When did Floyd reject a fight with Cotto?
Post destruction of Zab? Post-W vs shane? If that was his excuse ill admit it, it is ****ing lame.
You see, asking for additional testing is not being a judge nor is it putting rules in a boxing match. It is simply a demand for a fair and level playingfield. Just like putting a multi-million dollar penalty on missed weight.
It was an interview with ESPN after he's fight with WWE's Big Show back in February 2008.
When he was asked "why don't you step in the ring with Miguel Cotto?" He didn't expect the question, so i suppose he couldn't give a straight answer. But regardless of that, he'll dismantle Cotto easily in my opinion. Just like in the interview with Brian Kenny why he was he opting to fight Zab Judah instead of Carlos Baldomir when the latter upsetted the former. He eventually fought Baldomir and gave him an ass whipping Carlos would never forget.
Floyd wants random drug testing. Manny is wishy-washy...backtracks and says he is willing to compromise. It's up to them to iron things out. I just hope Floyd's willing to accept Pac's proposal.
Manny says he feels weak when blood is drawn out of him near the fight. Who are we to deny him of his opinion, it may be BS, regardless of that, it still affects him psychologically. A 5 to 14 day cut-off is sufficient. Random blood testing up to the day of the fight is not the solution.
Koncz and Arum put the ziploc on Manny.
His only pronouncements after THAT were a carefully worded
press release on his website: and no, it did NOT read at all like
what Manny normally writes.
Manny didn't like the USADA tests, but will put up with them.
The real sticking point is gate share and commission to TR vs GBP
from Cowboys Stadium vs MGM Grand. If Blob and delaFishnets
can pull their thumbs out of their asses, the fight gets made.
Period.
If NSAC proceeds with their blood testing plans, do you think the Pacquiao team will go for it?
Then again, we have yet to find out the details for their possible testing.
I think that would be more of the problem than venue.
It's not like Pacquiao is the only who one makes excuses. Floyd rejected to step in the ring with Cotto because "he lives in Puerto Rico, so we are not fighting for the boxing fans who the best is" "and he must realize, that he's with Bob Arum, he's a grumpy old man"
Floyd interview with Brian Kenny back in 2006:
"well, you got to realize Brian Kenny, I don't make the rules in boxing, all i do is to beat the opponents they put in front of me, I'm not the judges!"
So, who's making the rules now? who's demanding random bloodtesting?
Both Pac and Floyd add these stipulations thats out of the norm. Both parties are to blame if and when the fight never gets signed.
But now that one party is willing to compromise, i hope the other does too
When did Floyd reject a fight with Cotto?
Post destruction of Zab? Post-W vs shane? If that was his excuse ill admit it, it is ****ing lame.
You see, asking for additional testing is not being a judge nor is it putting rules in a boxing match. It is simply a demand for a fair and level playingfield. Just like putting a multi-million dollar penalty on missed weight.
And "scum" like Manny? His demands are OK because?
Seriously, Manny should have just gone with the "my feets itches" excuse as he did after JMM #1. Would have saved us alot of bickering.
It's not like Pacquiao is the only who one makes excuses. Floyd rejected to step in the ring with Cotto because "he lives in Puerto Rico, so we are not fighting for the boxing fans who the best is" "and he must realize, that he's with Bob Arum, he's a grumpy old man"
Floyd interview with Brian Kenny back in 2006:
"well, you got to realize Brian Kenny, I don't make the rules in boxing, all i do is to beat the opponents they put in front of me, I'm not the judges!"
So, who's making the rules now? who's demanding random bloodtesting?
Both Pac and Floyd add these stipulations thats out of the norm. Both parties are to blame if and when the fight never gets signed.
But now that one party is willing to compromise, i hope the other does too
Poll coming...
I'm pretty sure we all knew what negotiating factor killed the fight for Mayweather-Pacquiao on March 13 and that was the cut off date. Pacquiao wanted 24 days and Floyd wanted 14.
Floyd now no longer wants a cut off date and most likely won't agree to a 50/50 with the purse.
And Pacquiao has changed his mind in his latest official statement that he's willing to take 14 days. http://pacman.craveonline.com/articles/news/83002-official-statement-made-may-3rd-230-am-philippines-time
I'm interested to see how you all think the possible renegotiations will result in. We know these two have large egos, but this is the fight of our era (no matter what your opinions are of either fighter) and some budging needs to be made. Pacquiao changing his mind has given me some hope.
This is just a prediction thread.
Will they agree to the 14 day cut off? No cut offs?
Also:
Do you think it will be 50/50? 60/40?
Where will the fight be located? Vegas? Texas?
Will the $10 million weight penalty still be in the contract?
Or will the fight never happen? And Arum screws us all?
i dont think the fight will ever happen, arum will fukk it up like u say. pac is just 31, arum doesnt want to risk his status and money making ability by putting him in there with someone who could beat him.
the purse should be 50/50, i dont know about the venue though. im not sure the mgm or the thomas & mack centre holds enough ppl for an event like this, at the same time the casinos will pay ALOT of money to host the fight so who knows.
the cut of date should be 14 at most, pac gave blood 12 days before his fight with hatton so how can 14 days be too little time?
No cut off date, they already ****ed that up and the money is atleast 60/40 now too. Floyd should stand 100% firm on this no matter what, he gives random tests or no fight...NO Test NO FIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Seriously Castillo should have not got robbed on first fight, then we wouldnt have this problem of Flyod being so over protective of his 0 gone. true story
And if the judges saw what most observers did, Manny would have lost in recent years and not gotten the fight with De la hoya.
Shit happens. We cant change history.
Mayweather is undefeated.
(i dont think Castillo won the first fight but that is another story)
It's not jsut that anyomre........he will want more $$$$$.
I wanted to include that into the poll but too many options. I think Pac will have to sacrifice for the 50/50 or agree to the 60/40.
Seriously, Manny should have just gone with the "my feets itches" excuse as he did after JMM #1. Would have saved us alot of bickering.
Seriously Castillo should have not got robbed on first fight, then we wouldnt have this problem of Flyod being so over protective of his 0 gone. true story
Poll coming...
I'm pretty sure we all knew what negotiating factor killed the fight for Mayweather-Pacquiao on March 13 and that was the cut off date. Pacquiao wanted 24 days and Floyd wanted 14.
Floyd now no longer wants a cut off date and most likely won't agree to a 50/50 with the purse.
And Pacquiao has changed his mind in his latest official statement that he's willing to take 14 days. http://pacman.craveonline.com/articles/news/83002-official-statement-made-may-3rd-230-am-philippines-time
I'm interested to see how you all think the possible renegotiations will result in. We know these two have large egos, but this is the fight of our era (no matter what your opinions are of either fighter) and some budging needs to be made. Pacquiao changing his mind has given me some hope.
This is just a prediction thread.
Will they agree to the 14 day cut off? No cut offs?
Also:
Do you think it will be 50/50? 60/40?
Where will the fight be located? Vegas? Texas?
Will the $10 million weight penalty still be in the contract?
Or will the fight never happen? And Arum screws us all?
It's not jsut that anyomre........he will want more $$$$$.
Pac blinked, he's ready to accept the 14 day cut-off. He was crucified for not accepting it the first time. I thought it was a good thing that he didn't accept at first because the fight between Floyd and Money would never had happened. Now that the 3rd party has been eliminated, Floyd and Pac is the only fight left to see.
Pac is willing to compromise. I hope Floyd does too. No way in hell does Pac agree to blood testing up to the day of the fight.
If i were, Pac i would take no tests, until after the fight.
People here must have no pride in themselves to succumb to scum like Mayweather.
And "scum" like Manny? His demands are OK because?
Seriously, Manny should have just gone with the "my feets itches" excuse as he did after JMM #1. Would have saved us alot of bickering.