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Asking for catchweights is an admission of inadequacy. Demanding that a opponent cut weight is the equivalent of saying "I can't win without help". That's it in a nutshell. Stupid! Catchweight is a fight between the smaller and bigger fighter. Look at Oscar vs Pacquaio fight. Pac has only 1 fight at 135 but moved up to 147 to fight Oscar whos last fight was at 150. After Pac won and made Floyd win against Oscar look like sh!t some flomoidiots here said Pac should fought Oscar at 154 or much better at 160 to be fair! WTF! 135 Pacquaio should fight Oscar at 160 to consider the fight fair for both? lol! The same thing happened when Pac moved down to 140 and fought Hatton after the Oscar fight at 147, none of you praise Pacquaio when he moved down 7 lbs but discredit his win once again after Pac made Floyd win against Hatton like s!hit compare to Pacauaio total annihilation of Hatton at his best weight where he was actually undefeated. In Cotto fight, we all know Pacquiao was too small for welterweight, Pac last fight was against Hatton at 140 and Cottos last fight was at 147 and he weighed in 146. The fight was at 145 catchweight fight. Pac moved up 5 lbs, Cotto moved down just 1 lb and has 5 months to safely lose those extra lb. I dont see Cotto was at disadvantage here but more so for Pacquaio fighting a much bigger man.

but margirito has to come in at 151 as well. im not worried about manny they picked a weight for him to feel comfortable but his opponent to be uncomfortable. Another dumb post without thinking from you. Margarito is a 147 fighter who will face Pac at 150. So Margarito who already has the reach and size advantrages at 147 over Pac and by adding another more 3 lbs of pure muscles will be uncomfortable to him?

margirito last fight was at 154 hes fought at 154 before when he lost to santos. he is also fighting manny for a 154 pound title. hes not a 147 fighter he just is more reconized and accomplished more there. he is a big welterweight super welterweight. and noone is gonna put on no muscle dumb ass. 151 jsut means thats less weight they have to cut by fight time. you make it seem like manny and toni walks around at 147 and have to put on 3 pounds by fight time lol You only seeing Toni disadvantages by fighting Pac at 150 in which most of the fans thought it was in Tonis favor. How about Pac 5'6" in height and all his fight at 147 he only weighed in below 144?

Yes, because the guy who admitted that Shane is too good would want it with Sergio. Roach said to those words doesn't mean Pac scared or doesn't want to fight Shane. Don't take it like a gospel what Roach said will translate into Pacs words. It is well documented Pac willingness to face Mosley. Dumb! http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/273606 http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2009/06/pacquiao-expresses-interest-in-mosley-fight.html http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2009/june/04/yehey/sports/20090604spo1.html

overrated by who you? and who are you btw? oh yeah just a no ****ing body has proven nothing and done **** with his life in the sport of boxing to call anyone overrated. you make a dumb statement saying if margirito can stop martinez manny will. well if 2 112 pound boxers can knock manny out in under 5 rounds combined what would martinezz do to manny at 154 So by your logic, you saying the two 112 fighters who knocked out Manny will be the same Manny fighting Martinez at 154? You mean 112 Manny vs 154 Martinez? Idiot! Did you know that 126 Manny who fought Barrera until now (Manny at 147) never been knocked down since then?

and manny been koed in 3 rounds twice 112 pounds. whats ya point? You keep bringing up the 112 thing like a broken record which is any knowledgeable person knows its irrelevant of these days. It is fact that Pac was severely dehydrated in those lower divisions. If Pac to be koed now here, it is not because he been koed at 112 theories. It is because he went too far from his comfortable weight which is most probably at 140-147 and the fact Margo is too big for him at 150 or Martinez at 154. Let say Margo and Martinez was about this same height and body build of Pac, do you think they have a chance to beat Pac? If your 112 thing is so accurate as what you want us to believe. How come those fighters Pac fought at 126 (after Barrera fight) and above who are many times better than Margarito or Martinez did not even manage to knock him down not even once?

Why just numb your hands when you can use it all over you body perhaps like on your chin and stomach.

i am really sick of hearing that floyd is ducking margarito, i mean margarito is a trong welterweight and very powerfull, but it's not a fight that will give floyd the credit that he deserves. theyre are bigger fight out there, like cotto or mosley. All the mayweather hater want to find excuses, but you must admit he's the pound 4 pound Please explain Floyd reactions in this video.

I think even calling him a Flomo is an insult to Flomos At least those flomos here in NSB talk sone sense. This guy....I don't know what to say.

exactly. b.c he is. ha floyd >>> pac Let me ask you. Did you even know what ASEAN means without googling it? Did Floyd been there in these Asian countries before? Pac went to Thailand, China, Hongkong and recently in Singapore as guess speaker giving inspirational words to youth Olympic athletes. The first Y.O.G. or Youth Olympic Games was first held there. All these young boxers in that youth Olympic game from all over the world said they idiolize Pacquiao and their inspiration. You can't say the same to Floyd let alone trying to convince us Floyd is more popular there, flomo.

Manny was waiting until the WW division got old and washed up. It much better than faking your retirement to avoid everyone who challenged you in your weight division. lol!

ok. if paquiao was rehydrating that much weight before his fights with morales and barrera... wouldnt that make him.... WAIT FOR IT.... WAIT FOR IT..... wouldnt that make him.... DRAINED?! or does that theory only work when a big guy cuts weight to fight pacquiao? you're so blinded with hate that you dont even realize you're contradicting yourself. listen to what you're saying. pacquiao walks around at 144. you seen it yourself on 24/7, he was force fed because he was getting too small. cotto, margarito, odlh (who i might add came in as a 3/1 favorite, he was supposed to beat the **** out of pac. but you forgot that huh?), clottey are all atleast 160 come fight night. and guess what? they did what almost all fighters do. they cut weight and re hydrated. just like what pacquiao did at super feather... or was he drained?!?!?! Floyd winning the title from Ortiz by means of elbow punches and sucker punches was far more worst you can imagine than Pac winning the title against Diaz and Cotto.

this dumbass. most of the mayweather fans i know arent even black. you idiiot oh? just like your thread Floyd is more popular in ASIAN than Pac? GTFOH flomo!

While I agree with you that there are SOME things that Pacquiao's done in weight manipulation, I can honestly only think of a few that were/might've been affected by the weight issue. Oscar de la Hoya- To be honest, a lot of us thought this would be a one-sided affair in Oscar's favor. In hindsight, we pulled out the "Oh, well...Oscar hadn't made that weight in years." And yes, he hadn't. So, I guess Freddie was more sly than we thought. Cotto- To this day, I don't understand why Cotto was the only welterweight fighter that had to weigh in at 145 (two pounds under the welterweight limit). I'm not saying the fight would've been drastically different, but it just irks me. Why did he then allow Clottey and Mosley to come in at 147? That little thing just annoys me a bit... Margarito- fighting for a 154 title at a 150 lbs. catchweight?! What the hell? 150 is closer to 147 than 154 for cripes' sake. But whatever... And now, Márquez at 144... The only fighters Pacquiao's beaten at their real weight class (since Oscar) have been Hatton, Clottey, and Mosley. Not hating on Pacquiao, no fighter out there can do the things he's been able to do (with/without catchweight), but the way they toy with weights bothers me a little bit. You look like trying to hide some facts here to suit in your hidden agenda. Pac against Oscar, you purposely didn't mention Pac with just one fight at 135 to boot, moved another 2 divisions above to fight Oscar. Funny but you seem like the idea that Pacquiao should fought Oscar at 154 or 160. Pac against Hatton, you also purposely didn't mention this fight and Pac was actually moved down after the Oscar fight at 147 to fight Hatton at 140. Pac against Cotto, you also purposely didn't mention that Pac was actually moved up 5 lbs while Cotto only has to move down 1 lb compared to his last fight. Pac against Margarito, you purposely didn't mention once again that Margarito fought all his life at 147 and Pac fighting him at 150 will only help Margarito but not Pacquiao. That fact that you also failed to mention the 17 lbs advantage he had over Pacquiao. Pac against Marquez, you also failed to mention Pac already fought Marquez twice at his best division. Then you also ignored the fact that Pac last 3 fights were at 147-150 and should only fight at his best division but moving down to 144 to fight Marquez is good unlike Floyd who cheated Marquez at weigh-in and didn't give Hatton a leveling field but only to fight him in his own weight division!

Floyd fans majority are black Americans but as there are so many black known boxing figures now a days, they are totally divided. Mosley fans might not be a Floyd fans and vice versa. Just like Pacquiao fans are mostly not Donaire fans. Pac is different as he is not only representing Filipino-American but the whole Asian-American in US. You add to the fact Pacquiao character is a likable guy while Floyd is a complete jackass. People watch his fight because they want to see him lose. Pac also may have some black american fans anf more non-black American fans like Latinos, British, etc in America.

turned down two offers on the OSDT cutoff dates (why do you even need cutoff dates in the first place?), turned down $40 million which would be more than he's made in any of his top 3 fights combined, and yet people say Floyd is scared? Pac could accept the OSDT on the very first day but I doubt the fight will happen all of the sudden. You know why? Because the coward just admitted RECENTLY he will NEVER deal with Arum anyway. So what is that supposed to mean genius floydiot alt?

Yes it was.:boxing:

LOL at Floyd fans overrating Maidana now to make Floyd cherry picking looks like a legendary fight. Even a glas chin Khan took Maidana best shots and so did cotton chin Broner.

Take note Pac was an interviewed after the Morales fight and admitted the blood draining the day of the fight weakened him. That was long way back before the coward blood crusade and his horse hair gloves crusade. There was a blood testing in Morales fight. The person who already took Pacquiao's blood a few days ago magically lost the blood and had no choice but to take another blood sample from Pac. These focker probably took a liter of blood from Pac with in a few days. He passed the test doe.

Would Floyd's win over Maidana go up in stock, and/or would your opinion of Floyd or Manny change in general? I don't believe in triangle theories for the record. History shows Pac beat the hell out of Oscar, Hatton, Mosley and Cotto in one sided fashion while your boy went life and death. Maidana would be the same.

Three genus minds, The connections of Haymon, The smarts of Schaffer and the respect TBE has in the game makes a mouth watering combo. Boxing will turn into UFC, ruled by these guys. Especially TBE. Yeah. Be prepared to a series of circus cherry picked fights everybody trying to defend their 0.

Classic example of floydiot logic. Floyd dragged a lightweight Marquez to welterweight fight. Promised and signed the contract the fight would be at catchweight 144. Floyd not willing to lose 2 extra lbs put Marquez an already small Marquez to his disadvantage. In result Floyd came a healthy welterweight fighting a lightweight. Floyd habitually doing this crap to his advantage just like when he forced Maidana to wear tickling pillow gloves last minute to the fight to massage his butt. You are an idiot. Catchweight fight are for a reason. Cutting a weight is to give the smaller man a leveling field. Floyd losing those 2 lbs would make him weak, less stamina and would take out any sting to his punch and midget Marquez could hurt him more and so on. If the 2 lbs wouldn't make any difference why he weight drained Canelo on the first place after told everyone he is not putting his opponents to their disadvantages by weight draining them. Your boy is coward and liar. Let us say he fghts Canelo again then what is the demands? at 152 again Canelo needs to wear tickling gloves? LMAO!

LOL....."ghetto RAT" But u actually think he would KO him in 2 rounds??? Prime example when floyd fought marquez it was a weight disadvantage that we all know of.....BUT from how the fight went, u can make the conclusion that floyd would have won anyway even without the weight issue...Marquez lost almost evry round!! THis aint like broner fights were he walks guys down but eat alot of punches...if his opponents like paulie/ rees/ had more power they coulda have won.... In the canelo fight he was destroyed WORST than the marquez fight....he lost every single round easily.... GHETTO RAT 1)......DumbAZZ racist 0 ) Classic example of floydiot logic. Floyd dragged a lightweight Marquez to welterweight fight. Promised and signed the contract the fight would be at catchweight 144. Floyd not willing to lose 2 extra lbs put Marquez an already small Marquez to his disadvantage. In result Floyd came a healthy welterweight fighting a lightweight. Floyd habitually doing this crap to his advantage just like when he forced Maidana to wear tickling pillow gloves last minute to the fight to massage his butt.

Classic example of floydiot logic. Floyd dragged a lightweight Marquez to welterweight fight. Promised and signed the contract the fight would be at catchweight 144. Floyd not willing to lose 2 extra lbs put Marquez an already small Marquez to his disadvantage. In result Floyd came a healthy welterweight fighting a lightweight. Floyd habitually doing this crap to his advantage just like when he forced Maidana to wear tickling pillow gloves last minute to the fight to massage his butt. You are an idiot. Catchweight fight are for a reason. Cutting a weight is to give the smaller man a leveling field. Floyd losing those 2 lbs would make him weak, less stamina and would take out any sting to his punch and midget Marquez could hurt him more and so on. If the 2 lbs wouldn't make any difference why he weight Canelo drained on the first place after he told everyone he is not putting his opponents to their disadvantages by weight draining them. Your boy is coward and liar. Let us say he fights Canelo again then what, at 150 and he needs to wear tickling gloves again?

Robbery? How can anyone take you seriously when you're coming out with bull**** like that. It's not a robbery? Well look at the other 2 judges scorecard. 111-117 and 112-116 for god sake. These corrupt judges should give at least 114-114 for Maidana because he clearly won round 1-7 and the rest was close but some are clearly won by Maidana as well.

I haven't read the thread but why wasn't Maidana allowed to wear the Red MX gloves the commission approved? The big boy at GBP threatened Maidana team to wear Floyd pillow gloves so they had no choice.

We are discussing recent opponents of both Mayweather and Pacquiao. You said JMM and Bradley are better and would beat any of Mayweathers. I disagree because Canelo would beat both at 152. Which is the weight Mayweather fought him at, he didn't fight him at the mythical P4P weight class. Saying Canelo would beat JMM and Bradley is just like both will Canelo at 146 but this fantasy and Floyd wins all in fantasy.

That was a such ***** move making chino wear pillows instead of the punchers glove. It wasn't in the contract but Floyd made his way. The outcome probably even worst for Floyd if Chino was allowed to wear those face grinder gloves.

OkRemember when Floyd had a tough fight with Cotto and people thought he was old? I'm not saying Floyd isn't an old fighter, he is, I'm just saying don't assume everyone can recreate what Maidana managed to do tonight. What is so special about what Maidana did tonight? I saw he simply corner Floyd to the ropes and punch nonstop. Pac can easily copy that, do that exactly but will be much better because of his endless stamina, faster more accurate punches wearing horse hair gloves. Floyd's another demand....no to horse hair gloves. LMAO

Maidana deserves a rematch. Floyd will rather fake his retirement just like what he did to Oscar. Health comes first and his last fight proved he must stick to his golden rule.