Damn, missed it.
From what I've read on this post I'd suggest the best name Cleverly could/should possibly fight next would be someone like Edison Miranda.
Miranda is on the the slide but still a semi-respected and well known fighter and light heavyweight.
By the sounds of it though even Miranda maybe too much a step up in class at this moment in time for Nathan.
EXACTLY this^^^^^^
Not exactly anything!
Had Benn 'not' fought Mcclellan nearly all these forum 'mythical' matches would say Benn has no chance but we all know what happened in that fight.
Truth is,Toney is a HOF as is Hopkins and both have superior skills yet neither punch anywhere near as hard as Nigel Benn and Hopkins certainly doesn't have Benn's heart and ferocity either.
Benn woulda given Jones absolute hell,Nigel aint no Pazienza.
As for Eubank,no way does Roid stop him,not now,not ever.Eubanks chin was easily equal to Toney's or Poppy's.Thats one attribute Eubank possessed that only an idiot would disagree with.
I actually think Nigel Benn KO's peak Jones without much effort but we'll never know.
One things for sure,Jones will continue to get raped abroad until he retires........why?.....because thats his Karma for NEVER fighting abroad when he was a pro unlike Benn,Eubank,Calzaghe,Hagler,Glen Johnson and all other 'non' roid taking champions.
We all know backyard cash cows almost 'NEVER' get tested as Chavez Jr is currently demonstrating.
Enjoy your Karma captain Roid :boxing:
Lacy mk 2
While Cloud is strong,has a good punch and is determined I can't help thinking eventually he is gonna get Jeff Lacy'd by someone.
He loads up too much and missed WAY too many shots against Clinton Woods,looking for KO blows instead of boxing more. He improved against Johnson but really,against a 'slickster' I feel Cloud would be exposed.
Pascal on the other hand is a tough,fairly slick,good moving and solid punching all rounder who does have 1 resounding weakness.....his stamina.
He was even in the fight against Froch, only losing the fight over the last 2-3 rounds due to Froch's nice jab work and Carl having more in the tank.
Against Dawson he also gassed late allowing Chad to come back into the fight even though Pascal was clearly ahead.
To beat Cloud, Pascal is gonna have to improve his stamina.
I think JP would be ahead against Cloud going into the 10th round but after that,he'd better get on his bike and steal the win or Cloud 'could' stop him.
I hope this fight happens but I'd go with Pascal on point after a few dodgy moments.
****ali *****ko
Steelhammer2011 you sad act.
Sanders already owned Vlad and slapped ****ali about the place for a few rounds and that was without training and living on a diet of beer.
Lewis was fat,old and crap and just plodded though ****ali like he was nothing.
A peak Lewis rapes him then passes him over to Bruno for another raping.
****ali is a cry baby who can't accept he is crap and relies on homo's like yourself to suck his dummy for him.
Bowe vs ****ali = ****ali eats canvas in 6.
Great fight.
I agree with the guy who said it would be like Benn vs Eubank 1, only more in close with both being wobbled, with Hagler by late stopage.
I think Nigel possibly stops Hagler 2-3 out of 10 fights, based purely on the fact that EVERY man can be stopped, especially against a banger like Nigel. If Hagler underestimates Benn, thats when he gets stopped ala Barkley, McClellan or DeWitt.
Hagler is also on record saying Nigel is one of the hardest middleweights of all time. He said this after watching Benn smash his cousin Robbie Simms.
It would have been a great fight.
ps. f%ck Toney being a middleweight great. He was a lazy,slothful lucker who woulda been beaten by both Benn and Eubank. Toney is super hyped at middleweight when he was in fact, boring and very lucky most of the time.
LOL, he guys about 13.
Gilfoid has got to be some young,homosexually repressed teenager who wished he could join a boxing club, but unfortunately knew he would get an erection when in a clinch.
Thank god he has been very quiet of late, other than the usual masturbatery comments over Ward.
Please do not take this individual seriously.
Wow.
Almost a fantasy match up this one. 2 top guys from a lower weight class, never met in the ring, finally meet up at heavyweight in their twilight years.
Could be a great fight, not so much in terms of excitement, but in terms of strategic, slick counter punch, chess match boxing.
Consensus has got to be Toney wins in close,Tarver wins at a distance though Tarver would possibly be the favorite.
Fingers crossed this one comes together.
Bad stoppage!
GREAT performance from Murphy,a real Rocky like effort and one worthy of a champion.
The fact that Murphy was ahead on ALL scorecards,was gassed but still defending himself,not shipping a lot of punishment and moving means this WAS a very poor stoppage imho.
I'd like to think the ref was showing his humanity due to the sad death in Russia the other day,but I feel this was nothing more than keeping the Theophane gravy train rolling.
Another reason to dislike the politics and corruption of pro boxing.
Disgrace to boxing.
WARD IS A FRAUD........FACT.
This fight MUST be changed to a NO CONTEST.
Team Ward have BLATANTLY broken the rules of the super 6 tournament.
1. 2 home judges/changed to 1 = NOT LEGAL
2. 1 home town referee = NOT LEGAL
3. Ward refuses to fight abroad = NOT LEGAL
4. 5 YES 5 counted headbutts = NOT LEGAL
3 patent infringements of the super 6 rules and 1 that should/would have been resolved with a LEGAL referee.
This fight was staged to keep American interest in the Super 6 and has proved without doubt to have been a corrupt contest.
Ward MUST be stripped....PERIOD.
STFU Gorilla dogs
Gorilla dogs said ...
'no time for that fight. pointless fight anways. froch just came off a big loss'
This is an example of why certain dick heads should not be allowed to have opinions.Opinions should really only be held by intelligent people.
Froch lost on points to Kessler and could still beat Abraham.
The Kessler fight was very close.
Losing one fight means nothing.
Pascal want to avenge his loss.
Froch vs Pascal was a fight of the year toe to toe slugfest.
Do want any more reason's for a Pascal vs Froch re-match....idiot?
I agree with Raven.
Atlas MUST be senile as I had the fight similar to the judges, maybe Cloud taking it by 5 but Woods made it a very good fight, taking atleast 3 rounds in there and giving Cloud his toughest fight.
Cloud looked unhappy at the end to, as if thinking....'Christ, this Woods is still there.....shit,what have I got to do?'
At least Woods can retire on his shield, he was a world class fighter who I've no doubt would've beaten Cloud had he been 5 years younger.
Atlas however, should NEVER score a fight again, the idiot!
no its not
:lol1: yup thats the one
No, it was Rocky 4,with thew Russian Ivan Drago when Adrian said Rocky couldn't win.
It was Rocky 3, the one with Mr T that MICKY said ' You can't win Rock, this guy will kill u to death inside of 3 rounds'
Ps, Froch should take this fight just to try and become the 1st man to stop Hopkins, that and a very nice payday!
Corruption wins again.
Disgraceful scoring tonight.
You'd think that 2 judges having the fight even would mean good,fair scoring but obviously....it doesn't as it was clearly not even after the final round.
Having Tua winning on the other hand,as one judge did, thats just blatantly corrupt.
This sport continues to disgrace itself with decisions like this one.
Final analysis...Barrett was robbed, period.
At last a challenge for FRAUD WARD.
Ward has dominated so far,biased scoring is not even an issue.
A real champion can fight anywhere with the same results.
REALLY then why the feck doesn't he fight outside Oakland then?
Why has Fraud Ward had home town refs for EVERY fight?
Why did he headbutt Kessler 7 TIMES without punishment?
As almost everyone here has said, this tournament has been giftwrapped for Ward because the U.S. has REALLY **** super middle weights who would NOT have won any titles outside their own corrupt country, had it not been for this corrupt tournament.
There is now some light however, as Bika will hopefully kick the living **** out of Fraud Ward due to the fact that Ward is a fake.
He ran against Miranda, against Bika he'll be fecking sprinting to the ref for any help he can get. Bika may be limited but he IS damn hard and not the sort of guy Ward has any hope of bullying.
ps. For the many ill-educated Yank Ward nuthuggers here, Bika is from AFRICA and therefore not European.
I REALLY hope this fight happens.
Well there will certainly be some tickets sold for this event based purely on the fact that Robin Reid is in it.
I must admit though, if I were one of these 5-0 or 6-1 fighters in this tournament, I would LOVE to be in the ring facing a faded Reid. Domestically he is still a massive name to have on your record.
Truefightfanatic said ..'Alexander thowed like 800 punches against Kotelnik'
Yeah he did, and they all missed.:owned:
Well done Pascal on a deserved win.
Dawson looks **** and will always look **** against guys who like to fight.
He was VERY lucky to get past old man Johnson in their 1st fight plus being dropped on more than one occasion tells us all we need to know ie....DAWSON CANNOT FIGHT, HE HATES TO FIGHT.
Dawson likes to box and control people which is great, boring but still great, 'IF' you're fighting old men with no stomach for it. In Pascal he met a young live dog and was very unprepared for him.
Oh and to all you people saying stuff like ' why didn't Chad do that to Pascal in round 3 instead of round 11'? etc.
Well, its because Pascal woulda knocked Dawson out, thats why. Pascal was up for a REAL fight from the 1st bell, Dawson was not, is not and, never will be. Dawson is no fighter, he's a pretty boxer with little stomach for toe to toe action.
Pascal will always be wrong for Dawson as possibly would Cloud be, but Cloud's still too raw and sloppy.
Pascal is rightfully no.1 right now and deservedly so.
Gangsters STILL run boxing.
[QUOTE= Freedom Fighter...
'Do you think it was fair that Ward has all his fights in Oakland?
Some shady stuff has been happening that favors the two Americans.'
The entire Ward story has been shady from the word go and he should not have even been in this tournament in the 1st place.
Bika and Bute should have been way ahead in the runnings before Andre Fraud.
EVERY fight in the States was against the rules. 2 hometown judges against Kessler was against the rules. Hometown ref vs Kessler again, against the rules.
These gangsters are SERIOUSLY desperate to have another American middleweight superstar they'll do anything.They've chosen their boy and be f$cked if anyone gets in their way.
Froch is the former WBC champion.Had Froch vs Kessler been outside this farce of a tournament Froch would have had an instant rematch clause to regain his title, making him the next in line for the WBC belt as he's the former champion.
Neither Andre Fraud nor 'Dildo' Dirrel have ANY right to the WBC belt outside of the WBC's apocryphal rankings.
This tournament has been swayed VERY heavily in Andre Frauds favor and I for one cannot wait to see either Froch or Abraham beat the living **** out of him.
If they don't, Bute will, mark my words, Andre Fraud has a beating coming, sooner or later, he is a faker, pure and simple and will NEVER fight outside his hometown...EVER ....because his team know what will happen.
'WBC stands for....... We Be Crooks'
James Toney.
Wtf
What Kessler vs Ward fight were u chumps watching?
'Ward beat Kessler pretty' and Kessler tried beating Ward with the jab and 'got hammered' etc is completely untrue and not close to what happened.
Some of you fools REALLY don't know boxing AT ALL!
Kessler stalked Ward and went after him for most of the fight and was fouled over and over. Whenever Ward got hit he held,butted and survived for dear life.
Kessler looked crap anyway and nowhere near hungry but if that fight were anywhere else it would have been a DQ win for Kessler,no doubt.
FAR too many Ward nut huggers around.
Froch has the right idea for this fight, keep this powder puff foul merchant at range,as soon as hes in range...Jab him,right hand then step off,away or backwards.Ward has no power at all and relies on making every fight hes in a VERY,VERY messy affair.
Allan Green,Kessler AND Bika....ALL messy fights because of one man.....WARD.
Ward = Hyped,boring,predictable....MESSY.
He's no HOF thats for sure and Froch should win this with relative ease providing he stays away and lets Ward come to him.
Froch's fight better be the main event.
Little b*tch Haye has no business taking the main slot over a real fighter like The Cobra.
Agreed, who the hell do SKY think they are kidding?
The only reason SKY would do this is because they know that no self respecting boxing fan would pay jack **** to watch 'Gay' Haye fight anyone other than a Klitschko and even that proposition (Haye vs Klitschko) got boring long ago.
Piss off and retire please Haye, you've fleeced the public with your 'clean out the division' horse **** and now you and your buddies at SKY are gonna try and ride the tailcoat of a REAL fighter like Froch.
The only thing 'Gay' Haye cleaned out was the pockets of the paying public.
No more matey.
Sky didn't give a toss about Carl before, if I were Froch, I'd tell em to shove it.
I hear Frank Bruno is still pretty fit ^^
I hear Gary Mason is....erm... .maybe not...............sry.......bad taste.
Based on Hayes recent opponents though.............:boxing:
RIP GARY MASON......A TRUE BRITISH CHAMPION.
Dude, there is no one more suspect than Pacquiao. Dude goes from being a less than average fighter, to a power house, now going back to being a less than Average fighter. And where is all his power?? Supposedly power is the last thing to go..but Pac on the other hand.
I agree completely with the above statement.
Not saying Hatton is HOF but did anyone else ever put a whippin on him like Pac did?...........nope!
Next thing you know everyone else is going the distance with Pac,just when most viewers notice how large Pac's head is getting,and we're not talking ego,I mean........literally! Roach's record with roid heads is well known also.
As far Roy's legacy,he NEVER left the USA as a pro,which says something about his reluctance to be tested from day one.
'Ooooooo I was robbed as an amature'
Yeah right Roid :boxing:
Test him please.
Chavez should NOT be taken seriously by any REAL boxing fan.
1- He was banned for 7 months for taking fucosamide (diuretic) used in weight loss and steroid dectection prevention.
2- Refused to take a urine test in his last fight.
3- Gained 21.1 pounds (nearly 2 STONES) in 24 hours before his last fight.
Chavez is without doubt using banned PED's to drop weight and maintain superior strength.He IS a cheat and a product of contemporary pro boxing.
Chavez is NOT A CHAMPION!
Pro boxing = Corrupt gangster controlled business,NOT a sport.
Pascal aint beat yet.
If Pascal is on form then this is certainly no done deal. Pascal is a live dog which is something Dawson has rarely seen.
The closest he's come to a live opponent was in the 1st Johnson fight and we all know Johnson made Dawson eat his own ass in that one.
As for calling out retired Calzaghe, ancient Hopkins yet no mention of Cloud....wtf?
Whose next Chad, Amir Khan?
Dawson = Idiot.