Official: Cleverly vs Karpency & undercards RbR & discussion thread...

First time watching Cleverly, but I only stuck around for 2 rounds. From what I'm reading, looks like I made the right choice.

shafikov 68-65 at time of stoppage 120-108 cleverly what was everyones scores?

:lol1: go kill yourself you are a worthless little shiit, nobody will miss you and you will be less of a strain on welfare. goodnight :) yeah but i'll miss calzaghe too much.

Damn, missed it. From what I've read on this post I'd suggest the best name Cleverly could/should possibly fight next would be someone like Edison Miranda. Miranda is on the the slide but still a semi-respected and well known fighter and light heavyweight. By the sounds of it though even Miranda maybe too much a step up in class at this moment in time for Nathan.

have you ever made a post that doesn't connect to calzaghe? you need help son everything connects to calzaghe. especially greatness.

MIKE MCFAIL should be Cleverly's next opponent. . . (yes, he is a real light heavyweight american boxer).Yea, I saw his name on Boxrec a long time ago and seriously thought it was a joke at first. Lol. I mean, Mike Mcfail?!!? Really? lol.

Like I've said in the past, having a good high punch output is good. At the end of the day though, anyone can stand in there and throw lots of punches. It's about putting your punches together in concise accurate world class combination. That's something Cleverly hasn't learned yet. His trainer needs to make him work on using his jab, train him on controlling range and distance with the jab. His trainer needs to make him work on his footwork, and train him on controlling things from distance, because he has the length and athletic ability to learn these things. He needs to learn how to pick his shots more, and sitting down on them more, not just throwing, but picking your punches and putting them together in a controlled concise accurate crisp manner. But if he steps up and fights Cloud, Hopkins, Dawson, Pascal and even Campillo, I think Cleverly loses badly if he goes in there fighting the way he did tonight. Sillakh does all of those things you mentioned , and very well right now and like I said and we all know, Sillakh would end that fight. Those douche bag homer boxing announcer dudes from britain made every excuse in the book for the poor performance by Cleverly. Cleverly better get one good payday because............ Its only a matter of time before the imposters are weeded out.

Since the first time I ever saw Nathan Cleverly I said that their is nothing special about him. He continues to confirm it with every fight he has. If I were him I would stay in Wales and defend his title 20 times against Karpency level fighters then he can say he's a great fighter.

Cleverly should fight Dicanu next.

Cleverly should step up to the second tier Light Heavies like Syllakh. Think he would be game for that? we don't know how good sillakh is yet. he might be first tier and promoters don't like taking risks so that will never happen. guys like shumenov, allan green, chilemba are 2nd tier. warren has been trying to make the shumenov fight like mad the last year. i've never seen someone so desperate to fight a bum in my life. shumenov is a fake champ(even faker than cleverly) the winner of that fight would be the super duper wbo/wba champion emeritus interim global champion.

A British fighter with a WBO title is the worst combination of all when it comes to non-competitive title fights.

Like I've said in the past, having a good high punch output is good. At the end of the day though, anyone can stand in there and throw lots of punches. It's about putting your punches together in concise accurate world class combination. That's something Cleverly hasn't learned yet. His trainer needs to make him work on using his jab, train him on controlling range and distance with the jab. His trainer needs to make him work on his footwork, and train him on controlling things from distance, because he has the length and athletic ability to learn these things. He needs to learn how to pick his shots more, and sitting down on them more, not just throwing, but picking your punches and putting them together in a controlled concise accurate crisp manner. But if he steps up and fights Cloud, Hopkins, Dawson, Pascal and even Campillo, I think Cleverly loses badly if he goes in there fighting the way he did tonight.

Cleverly should step up to the second tier Light Heavies like Syllakh. Think he would be game for that? That's what i'm thinking. Not sure if Sillakh is first tier or not though. He could spark Clev out. Good fight, Frank wont make it happen.

So Sykllakh is the new "underrated superstar" right?

he just said karpency is the hardest puncher he has faced....................either he's lying or glass jaw alert! Cleverly should step up to the second tier Light Heavies like Syllakh. Think he would be game for that?

The lack of power is a real concern. A pressure fighter that lacks any power is about as useful as a pedal powered wheelchair.

he just said karpency is the hardest puncher he has faced....................either he's lying or glass jaw alert!

114 - 112 Karpency.

Nice..the yankee didnt get a single RD :D

You really think Warren is going to put him anywhere near Cloud after this performance? :lol1: Few more years fighting poor opposition is looking like the outcome. he needs a good excuse to explain his ducking the top guys though. calzaghe used "i'm afraid of flying" so he can't use that one.